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Leafs acquire Martin Marincin from Edmonton

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Very underrated defenceman many say. Looks like a great trade, especially with Brad Ross finished. The pick is 107 this year.
 
Big guy 6'4, 203 and only a few months older than Ross. Given that Ross wasn't doing anything trading him for a NHL-ish defenseman seems pretty solid.
 
Marincin is ranked 7.5 B at Hockey's Future. 46th overall pick in 2010. 6'4 188# 23yrs old.
Sounds promising.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
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Very underrated defenceman many say. Looks like a great trade, especially with Brad Ross finished. The pick is 107 this year.

Didn't Ross sign with the DEL already?  So Marincin a former 2nd round pick from the same 2010 draft who is 6'4" and 200+ pounds for a 4th rounder.  Sure.  Sounds good.

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2014/05/14/martin-marincin-is-the-best-thing-to-happen-to-the-edmonton-oilers-in-season-in-a-long-long-time/
 
bustaheims said:
So, Jimmy Hayes becomes Martin Marincin? Yeah, alright.

Ross was likely a throw in to make contracts work at this point I'm guessing, like LK says he's already off the Europe I doubt Edmonton would be interested in signing him to a deal for next season.

But looking at it your way would help us sleep at night so yeah!
 
Highlander said:
Why did they trade him for basically nothing if he has so much upside?

Well, they have acquired a number of defensemen and only have so many spots. Also, they might legitimately be idiots.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Highlander said:
Why did they trade him for basically nothing if he has so much upside?

Well, they have acquired a number of defensemen and only have so many spots. Also, they might legitimately be idiots.

And with the 107 pick they drafted another defenceman.
 
Here's a good article on Marincin from earlier this month: http://www.coppernblue.com/2015/6/12/8765883/martin-marincin

What we can confirm from his 85 games in the NHL is that he is a fantastic skater who can move the puck well and win one-on-one battles. Being 23, he's likely to make a mistake here and there, but he has shown signs of the defensive acumen needed to succeed at the NHL level. This past season was an interesting one for him, as he played very tough minutes at even strength for a weak Oilers team, yet still posted respectable possession numbers and shot share totals.

One number that stands out from the advanced metrics is the percentage of offensive zone starts, or lack thereof, Marincin had last season. Even though he started far more often in the defensive end against tougher competition compared to his teammates on defense, he still managed a respectable Corsi rating relative to his team.
 
Some more information about him from MLHS: http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2015/06/27/toronto-maple-leafs-trade-brad-ross-and-107th-pick-to-oilers-for-martin-marincin/

The knocks against him are many, largely based on eye-witness evaluations. ?He?s got no jam!? goes one common refrain. ?He?s not heavy on his stick. He not a banger, and he doesn?t generate much offence. He?s just there.?

His strengths are mostly subtle ones. You could build a scale model of the guy out of pipe cleaners, you?d just need extra long ones to represent his limbs and feet, complete with a stick that could clean a pipe a block away. Nice soft hands control that far-reaching stick, which wins many puck battles so effortlessly as to not appear to be battles at all. Observers who focus primarily on physical confrontations tend to find him wanting, and even his supporters no doubt wish he?d lean on people a little bit more. But watch how often he wins/maintains possession of the puck and one can get a sense of a real player here, albeit one who is still learning the ropes.


I'm not expecting the exact same career path, but man that sounds a lot like Anton Stralman.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Here's a good article on Marincin from earlier this month: http://www.coppernblue.com/2015/6/12/8765883/martin-marincin

What we can confirm from his 85 games in the NHL is that he is a fantastic skater who can move the puck well and win one-on-one battles. Being 23, he's likely to make a mistake here and there, but he has shown signs of the defensive acumen needed to succeed at the NHL level. This past season was an interesting one for him, as he played very tough minutes at even strength for a weak Oilers team, yet still posted respectable possession numbers and shot share totals.

One number that stands out from the advanced metrics is the percentage of offensive zone starts, or lack thereof, Marincin had last season. Even though he started far more often in the defensive end against tougher competition compared to his teammates on defense, he still managed a respectable Corsi rating relative to his team.

It really does...except Marincin is a good 4 inches taller.  That's pretty awesome.  Expectations for any player need to be tempered but teams give away future solid players all the time, and Stralman is a perfect example.  I think this was a very poor move by Edmonton. 
 
L K said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Here's a good article on Marincin from earlier this month: http://www.coppernblue.com/2015/6/12/8765883/martin-marincin

What we can confirm from his 85 games in the NHL is that he is a fantastic skater who can move the puck well and win one-on-one battles. Being 23, he's likely to make a mistake here and there, but he has shown signs of the defensive acumen needed to succeed at the NHL level. This past season was an interesting one for him, as he played very tough minutes at even strength for a weak Oilers team, yet still posted respectable possession numbers and shot share totals.

One number that stands out from the advanced metrics is the percentage of offensive zone starts, or lack thereof, Marincin had last season. Even though he started far more often in the defensive end against tougher competition compared to his teammates on defense, he still managed a respectable Corsi rating relative to his team.

It really does...except Marincin is a good 4 inches taller.  That's pretty awesome.  Expectations for any player need to be tempered but teams give away future solid players all the time, and Stralman is a perfect example.  I think this was a very poor move by Edmonton.

I would think that this player was made available to the highest bidder and if what TO offered was the best offer, I would think this speaks volumes. I think he's simply a player TO traded for because TO's vaunted youthful d-men aren't ready yet, getting worked up about anything about this guy seems a waste of time to me.
 
hobarth said:
L K said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Here's a good article on Marincin from earlier this month: http://www.coppernblue.com/2015/6/12/8765883/martin-marincin

What we can confirm from his 85 games in the NHL is that he is a fantastic skater who can move the puck well and win one-on-one battles. Being 23, he's likely to make a mistake here and there, but he has shown signs of the defensive acumen needed to succeed at the NHL level. This past season was an interesting one for him, as he played very tough minutes at even strength for a weak Oilers team, yet still posted respectable possession numbers and shot share totals.

One number that stands out from the advanced metrics is the percentage of offensive zone starts, or lack thereof, Marincin had last season. Even though he started far more often in the defensive end against tougher competition compared to his teammates on defense, he still managed a respectable Corsi rating relative to his team.

It really does...except Marincin is a good 4 inches taller.  That's pretty awesome.  Expectations for any player need to be tempered but teams give away future solid players all the time, and Stralman is a perfect example.  I think this was a very poor move by Edmonton.

I would think that this player was made available to the highest bidder and if what TO offered was the best offer, I would think this speaks volumes. I think he's simply a player TO traded for because TO's vaunted youthful d-men aren't ready yet, getting worked up about anything about this guy seems a waste of time to me.

That's weird, I'd have bet the mortgage on you being very excited by this trade.

They still making you wear Velcro shoes?
 
Patrick said:
hobarth said:
L K said:
CarltonTheBear said:
Here's a good article on Marincin from earlier this month: http://www.coppernblue.com/2015/6/12/8765883/martin-marincin

What we can confirm from his 85 games in the NHL is that he is a fantastic skater who can move the puck well and win one-on-one battles. Being 23, he's likely to make a mistake here and there, but he has shown signs of the defensive acumen needed to succeed at the NHL level. This past season was an interesting one for him, as he played very tough minutes at even strength for a weak Oilers team, yet still posted respectable possession numbers and shot share totals.

One number that stands out from the advanced metrics is the percentage of offensive zone starts, or lack thereof, Marincin had last season. Even though he started far more often in the defensive end against tougher competition compared to his teammates on defense, he still managed a respectable Corsi rating relative to his team.

It really does...except Marincin is a good 4 inches taller.  That's pretty awesome.  Expectations for any player need to be tempered but teams give away future solid players all the time, and Stralman is a perfect example.  I think this was a very poor move by Edmonton.

I would think that this player was made available to the highest bidder and if what TO offered was the best offer, I would think this speaks volumes. I think he's simply a player TO traded for because TO's vaunted youthful d-men aren't ready yet, getting worked up about anything about this guy seems a waste of time to me.

That's weird, I'd have bet the mortgage on you being very excited by this trade.

They still making you wear Velcro shoes?

Were you also a Clarkson devotee until for unknown reasons he was discarded?
 

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