Leafs @ Blackhawks - Oct. 7th, 7:00pm - SN, TSN 1050

[Zee]

I enjoyed Matthew's celebration after our 6th goal.

I also enjoyed Kane's mocking of his celebration after their 6th goal 30 seconds later.

Anyone who says players should not celebrate goals with passion is silly.

I didn't.  It's taunting, not celebrating.

I thought it was great. Matthews has a personality god forbid. And Kane did exactly what was warranted, he mocked him. I mean, at least Kane responded in the right way by scoring a goal instead of being a moron like Marchand.

Yeah I have no issue with what Kane did. Sure he was mocking, but he didn't like that Matthews did to his own crowd and he responded accordingly by scoring (unlike Marchand as poster above mentioned). That's how it should be, nothing wrong with celebrating and showing your opponent you won't stand for stuff like that.

 

[Bender]

I enjoyed Matthew's celebration after our 6th goal.

I also enjoyed Kane's mocking of his celebration after their 6th goal 30 seconds later.

Anyone who says players should not celebrate goals with passion is silly.

I didn't.  It's taunting, not celebrating.

I thought it was great. Matthews has a personality god forbid. And Kane did exactly what was warranted, he mocked him. I mean, at least Kane responded in the right way by scoring a goal instead of being a moron like Marchand.

Yeah I have no issue with what Kane did. Sure he was mocking, but he didn't like that Matthews did to his own crowd and he responded accordingly by scoring (unlike Marchand as poster above mentioned). That's how it should be, nothing wrong with celebrating and showing your opponent you won't stand for stuff like that.

Agreed. This kind of stuff is what brings people to the game. You need a bit of drama. What's the point of scoring and acting like it wasn't a big deal, especially with a minute to go?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I didn't.  It's taunting, not celebrating.

I thought it was great. Matthews has a personality god forbid. And Kane did exactly what was warranted, he mocked him. I mean, at least Kane responded in the right way by scoring a goal instead of being a moron like Marchand.

Yeah I have no issue with what Kane did. Sure he was mocking, but he didn't like that Matthews did to his own crowd and he responded accordingly by scoring (unlike Marchand as poster above mentioned). That's how it should be, nothing wrong with celebrating and showing your opponent you won't stand for stuff like that.

We should probably remember that Matthews himself found the whole thing funny, the cameras picked him up laughing after it happened. It's also probably safe to assume that Matthews and Kane have a healthy off-ice relationship, seeing as how they train together in the offseason. So I really don't see the big deal. If Kane was taunting/mocking Matthews it happened on pretty friendly terms.

 

[Zee]

I didn't.  It's taunting, not celebrating.

I thought it was great. Matthews has a personality god forbid. And Kane did exactly what was warranted, he mocked him. I mean, at least Kane responded in the right way by scoring a goal instead of being a moron like Marchand.

Yeah I have no issue with what Kane did. Sure he was mocking, but he didn't like that Matthews did to his own crowd and he responded accordingly by scoring (unlike Marchand as poster above mentioned). That's how it should be, nothing wrong with celebrating and showing your opponent you won't stand for stuff like that.

We should probably remember that Matthews himself found the whole thing funny, the cameras picked him up laughing after it happened. It's also probably safe to assume that Matthews and Kane have a healthy off-ice relationship, seeing as how they train together in the offseason. So I really don't see the big deal. If Kane was taunting/mocking Matthews it happened on pretty friendly terms.

Yup. A lot of these guys are friends off ice despite being on different teams. It's not like the old days where you hear stories of rival players hating each other even when the games end. It's a different time.

 

[Strangelove]

https://twitter.com/Hockey_Hooligan/status/1049313816750837761

If it wasn?t already obvious, it?s now clear that Babcock is a dinosaur when it comes to defence and the importance of possession/controlled breakouts.

Requiring the team to make the ?safe? play by chipping it up the boards and giving it away is leading to scoring chances against and that?s hurting the team. It was clear against Boston in the playoffs when only our goaltending kept us in it, and it?s obvious now. 

 

[Phileas Fogg]

I enjoyed Matthew's celebration after our 6th goal.

I also enjoyed Kane's mocking of his celebration after their 6th goal 30 seconds later.

Anyone who says players should not celebrate goals with passion is silly.

I didn't.  It's taunting, not celebrating.

I tend to come down on Zanzibar's side of the fence. I have no problem with exhuberance and players showing their personality, but when it starts crossing over to NFL-style showboating, it just isn't my cup of tea. Not saying anyone that disagrees is wrong, but I like my beer cold, and my goal celebrations looking like they didn't practice them in the mirror beforehand.

 

[dappleganger]

https://twitter.com/Hockey_Hooligan/status/1049313816750837761?

That seems like fake news. I can remember at least one stretch pass where a Leaf forward was at the Leafs blue line.

 

[dappleganger]

I enjoyed Matthew's celebration after our 6th goal.

I also enjoyed Kane's mocking of his celebration after their 6th goal 30 seconds later.

Anyone who says players should not celebrate goals with passion is silly.

I didn't.  It's taunting, not celebrating.

I tend to come down on Zanzibar's side of the fence. I have no problem with exhuberance and players showing their personality, but when it starts crossing over to NFL-style showboating, it just isn't my cup of tea. Not saying anyone that disagrees is wrong, but I like my beer cold, and my goal celebrations looking like they didn't practice them in the mirror beforehand.

If Matthews does that in a 7-1 game, it's a problem. Doing it in a close game with a go ahead or game tying goal? No problem.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

That seems like fake news. I can remember at least one stretch pass where a Leaf forward was at the Leafs blue line.

There was a typo on his part:

https://twitter.com/Hockey_Hooligan/status/1049314349708455937

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I watched closely for the stretch pass play in this last game. It really is a head scratcher why that seems like the go to play most of the time.

 

[Phileas Fogg]

If Matthews does that in a 7-1 game, it's a problem. Doing it in a close game with a go ahead or game tying goal? No problem.

Well, that crosses the line over to taunting, so I think everyone would agree on that differentiation.

 

[Phileas Fogg]

I watched closely for the stretch pass play in this last game. It really is a head scratcher why that seems like the go to play most of the time.

Would Matthews' air mail pass for Kapenen's goal on the breakaway count as a stretch? That was an impressive play.

 

[dappleganger]

I watched closely for the stretch pass play in this last game. It really is a head scratcher why that seems like the go to play most of the time.

Would Matthews' air mail pass for Kapenen's goal on the breakaway count as a stretch? That was an impressive play.

I believe it would.

 

[L K]

I watched closely for the stretch pass play in this last game. It really is a head scratcher why that seems like the go to play most of the time.

Would Matthews' air mail pass for Kapenen's goal on the breakaway count as a stretch? That was an impressive play.

I believe it would.

It absolutely would but I think there is a difference between a good stretch play and a bad one.  Firing the puck across the neutral zone when there isn?t a great outlet isn?t a good play.  That flip up to Kapanen had Kasperi coming up the ice with speed against two defendemen who where on their heels.  At worst it was a play that got picked off while the rest of the team was still on their half of the ice.  Too many plays have all three forwards up high so it creates odd man situations coming back into the leafs zone.

It happens far too often to not be a Babcock strategy and it?s a perplexing one to me.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I watched closely for the stretch pass play in this last game. It really is a head scratcher why that seems like the go to play most of the time.

Would Matthews' air mail pass for Kapenen's goal on the breakaway count as a stretch? That was an impressive play.

It sure was. When the stretch play actually gets to the intended target, and that target is in motion like Kapanen was, it works great. I also saw around 4 or 5 unnecessary icings because the stretch play missed the player and the puck went all the way down causing a dangerous face off in the Leaf's zone with a tired group of forwards.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

It happens far too often to not be a Babcock strategy and it?s a perplexing one to me.

I still refuse to believe it. It just doesn't make sense. I would expect a coach to be ripping his players on the bench for 3 of them flying the zone so early that they're standing still at the opposing blueline hoping for a pass

 

[Bill_Berg]

I watched closely for the stretch pass play in this last game. It really is a head scratcher why that seems like the go to play most of the time.

Would Matthews' air mail pass for Kapenen's goal on the breakaway count as a stretch? That was an impressive play.

It sure was. When the stretch play actually gets to the intended target, and that target is in motion like Kapanen was, it works great. I also saw around 4 or 5 unnecessary icings because the stretch play missed the player and the puck went all the way down causing a dangerous face off in the Leaf's zone with a tired group of forwards.

There's a difference between spotting a guy you can give a lead pass to and panicking in the defensive zone.

 

[OldTimeHockey]

I watched closely for the stretch pass play in this last game. It really is a head scratcher why that seems like the go to play most of the time.

Would Matthews' air mail pass for Kapenen's goal on the breakaway count as a stretch? That was an impressive play.

It sure was. When the stretch play actually gets to the intended target, and that target is in motion like Kapanen was, it works great. I also saw around 4 or 5 unnecessary icings because the stretch play missed the player and the puck went all the way down causing a dangerous face off in the Leaf's zone with a tired group of forwards.

There's a difference between spotting a guy you can give a lead pass to and panicking in the defensive zone.

Also very true!

 

[disco]

Just caught RedLeaf's Game in Six. Wow! What drama! (also that maximum sievage )
Great soft hand plays by JT, Auston, Mitch and Kap on the goals. Love Mo's squeal on the O/T winner.

 

[herman]

Here is the list of teams that have scored more goals so far than Matthews + Tavares this season:
Chicago
Washington
Toronto (obviously)
Carolina
Ottawa
Boston