barney_rebel
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We stink
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barney_rebel said:We stink
azzurri63 said:Gardiner, JVR, Komarov and Martin need new homes.
Al14 said:azzurri63 said:Gardiner, JVR, Komarov and Martin need new homes.
You forgot the useless Bozak!
Zee said:I mean yeah the Leafs were ass and changes are needed, but St Louis had been playing at home since last Saturday, were well rested while the Leafs played 4 games in 6 nights and traveled for every game. Is anyone really surprised?
It's the expectations that concern me the most. Not so much the fan expectations, because we get excited when the team wins and down when they lose. That's what fans do.TML fan said:This is likely way more indicative of how good the team really is than the first month was. They are really no better than they were last year...probably a little worse actually. Expectations are just higher now.
Things need to change, but not right away. I hope they can make the RIGHT moves with personnel, and not get stuck in short term thinking.
I was saying to my friend tonight that the Leafs started to slide when they started worrying about keeping pucks out of their net. He made a good point when he said that the core group NEEDS to learn how to play defence because most of them will likely still be with the club when they do get better and start competing for real.
It was probably premature to get as excited about the Leafs start as we did, and it's probably premature to get as frustrated as we are now. We were promised pain 3 years ago. This is it.
TML fan said:This is likely way more indicative of how good the team really is than the first month was. They are really no better than they were last year...probably a little worse actually. Expectations are just higher now.
Things need to change, but not right away. I hope they can make the RIGHT moves with personnel, and not get stuck in short term thinking.
I was saying to my friend tonight that the Leafs started to slide when they started worrying about keeping pucks out of their net. He made a good point when he said that the core group NEEDS to learn how to play defence because most of them will likely still be with the club when they do get better and start competing for real.
It was probably premature to get as excited about the Leafs start as we did, and it's probably premature to get as frustrated as we are now. We were promised pain 3 years ago. This is it.
skrackle said:TML fan said:This is likely way more indicative of how good the team really is than the first month was. They are really no better than they were last year...probably a little worse actually. Expectations are just higher now.
Things need to change, but not right away. I hope they can make the RIGHT moves with personnel, and not get stuck in short term thinking.
I was saying to my friend tonight that the Leafs started to slide when they started worrying about keeping pucks out of their net. He made a good point when he said that the core group NEEDS to learn how to play defence because most of them will likely still be with the club when they do get better and start competing for real.
It was probably premature to get as excited about the Leafs start as we did, and it's probably premature to get as frustrated as we are now. We were promised pain 3 years ago. This is it.
It's what management/ownership expects that's bugging me. At times I think that the Leafs organization has been basking in the hype around the team and actually think this roster is ready to contend. I would really hate to think that, because that's just more of the short term mentality as you mentioned, that's kept the Leafs as a bad to mediocre team for decades.
?...Matthews? group is always good. Matthews and Hyman are good, I should say.?
L K said:Then the 6th goal was goaltender interference.
AvroArrow said:I don't see any goalie interference on the last goal against...