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Leafs @ Capitals - Nov. 7th, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050

Wasn't Healy going on some big rant about contact on the goalies the other night? Now he's all "well the refs can't really make that call on that little tiny screen"
 
I have no idea what the rule is, but the part of Reimer that was contacted was not in the blue paint. His knees were but his head wasn't. I can see why they'd call it off but if the rule is "in the blue paint" then that should've counted.
 
For the record if I had a vote I'd say a play like that is a good goal. This "incidental contact" stuff is so silly. If you're going to call goalie interference on a goal it should be for something that's worth 2 minutes in the box.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
For the record if I had a vote I'd say a play like that is a good goal. This "incidental contact" stuff is so silly. If you're going to call goalie interference on a goal it should be for something that's worth 2 minutes in the box.

I agree.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
For the record if I had a vote I'd say a play like that is a good goal. This "incidental contact" stuff is so silly. If you're going to call goalie interference on a goal it should be for something that's worth 2 minutes in the box.

I don't know if I'd call that one incidental contact. It wasn't vicious or anything, but Williams knew he was going to make contact with Reimer there. He looked right at him before it happened. But, I don't think that contact is penalty worthy. He just skated into him rather than trying to knock him over or anything like that. I'm quite fine with that being the line. If Williams was facing the other way, I would have said that should have been a goal, but looking at the goalie and drifting in like that - no goal, but no penalty, either.
 
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
For the record if I had a vote I'd say a play like that is a good goal. This "incidental contact" stuff is so silly. If you're going to call goalie interference on a goal it should be for something that's worth 2 minutes in the box.

I don't know if I'd call that one incidental contact. It wasn't vicious or anything, but Williams knew he was going to make contact with Reimer there. He looked right at him before it happened. But, I don't think that contact is penalty worthy. He just skated into him rather than trying to knock him over or anything like that. I'm quite fine with that being the line. If Williams was facing the other way, I would have said that should have been a goal, but looking at the goalie and drifting in like that - no goal, but no penalty, either.

If you want the players to stop trying to get away with it, you take away the goal, AND, you give them a penalty too. JMHO.
 
Missed the JVR goal at first, just saw it now. Fluke bounce that goes right to where Kadri is usually positioned on the PP. But JVR was there that time. Amazing.
 
bustaheims said:
CarltonTheBear said:
For the record if I had a vote I'd say a play like that is a good goal. This "incidental contact" stuff is so silly. If you're going to call goalie interference on a goal it should be for something that's worth 2 minutes in the box.

I don't know if I'd call that one incidental contact. It wasn't vicious or anything, but Williams knew he was going to make contact with Reimer there. He looked right at him before it happened. But, I don't think that contact is penalty worthy. He just skated into him rather than trying to knock him over or anything like that. I'm quite fine with that being the line. If Williams was facing the other way, I would have said that should have been a goal, but looking at the goalie and drifting in like that - no goal, but no penalty, either.

But then is the idea that goalies just aren't allowed to be touched? Would you whistle that play dead if the puck doesn't go in?

I think in order for a goal to be called off something serious enough to at least warrant a stoppage in play should have occurred. Otherwise it makes it seem like the goal was called on the basis of rulebook ephemera.
 
Al14 said:
If you want the players to stop trying to get away with it, you take away the goal, AND, you give them a penalty too. JMHO.

To me, that's getting too close to the whole "skate in the crease" thing. There needs to be some room in between. There's no need for a penalty any time a player comes in contact with the goalie like that - because, you couldn't just call it when there's a goal scored, it would have to be always. Things need to be clarified, but that's about it.
 
Al14 said:
If you want the players to stop trying to get away with it, you take away the goal, AND, you give them a penalty too. JMHO.

Yup. Right now both the goalie and the skater know about this middle-area and are both trying to exploit it for their own gain.
 

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