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Leafs @ Oilers - Jan. 30th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590

BrownRolo said:
Nylander probably shouldn't take that shot. He didn't have a great angle and if he doesn't score it's guaranteed to be a 2 on 1 coming back.

Better play would have been for him to carry it behind the night and keep possession.
Its hard to say shoot or not. Maybe drive the net and try for the deke. You're right though once they turned it over Leafs were in big trouble. I didn't like that he went for a change instead of busting his ass to get back. I also didn't like his overall game tonight.
 
Guilt Trip said:
I didn't like that he went for a change instead of busting his ass to get back. I also didn't like his overall game tonight.

I don't really get this complaint. He was 35 seconds in his shift and the puck was just about at Edmonton's blue line. And with the way the change worked the player who replaced him (Matthews) was actually better positioned to get in on the upcoming rush than he was.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
gunnar36 said:
I really don't understand Keefe always starting Tavares in 3 on 3, especially when he is forced to keep up to McDavid on that much open ice.

I don't know, that's an easy decision to criticize in hindsight. Could have just as easily been the Leafs survived that first shift and then Matthews and Marner went out against whatever crap Edmonton put out next and they scored. Or if Matthews and Marner did go out and spent their entire shift defending then you could say their offensive talents were wasted. I don't really hate the decision. It's not as if Keefe did the equivalent of sending out Komarov and Hainsey.

In general I think he needs to shelter Tavares in 3 on 3 situations against the speedier players.
 
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1355718402443247616

Hmmm I'm starting to think Lehtonen isn't bumping anyone out of our top-4.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Guilt Trip said:
I didn't like that he went for a change instead of busting his ass to get back. I also didn't like his overall game tonight.

I don't really get this complaint. He was 35 seconds in his shift and the puck was just about at Edmonton's blue line. And with the way the change worked the player who replaced him (Matthews) was actually better positioned to get in on the upcoming rush than he was.

If he stayed on guess who would have just complained about Nylander dogging it on the backcheck and not being able to catch Connor McDavid.

If he didn?t try to shoot after Tavares springs him for a good enough look, guess who would have complained Nylander wasted a chance to end the game.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1355718402443247616

Hmmm I'm starting to think Lehtonen isn't bumping anyone out of our top-4.
Maybe we should stop over promising to KHL imports... I think It's rather even have Sandin rotating in games.
 
gunnar36 said:
I really don't understand Keefe always starting Tavares in 3 on 3, especially when he is forced to keep up to McDavid on that much open ice.

The Leafs did have the first real chance in the OT. If Nylander scored, would you commend Keefe for starting Tavares and Nylander?
 
Bender said:
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/1355718402443247616

Hmmm I'm starting to think Lehtonen isn't bumping anyone out of our top-4.
Maybe we should stop over promising to KHL imports... I think It's rather even have Sandin rotating in games.
Yeah I don't get it. I know they want to give these imports all the chances in the world so that future guys would want to come and you never know when you'll hit on one realty good one. Sandin is more than capable of handling 3rd pair duties right now and would bring way more poise than Lehtonen. Sitting him isn't doing Rasmus any favors right now he should be playing
 
Something I am seeing this season (as well as in the CBJ series as well as the WJC) is that a possession-system, if held to too rigidly, tends to have a lot of sequences where the team builds and develops a good series of plays to get up ice and into position, only to to be stymied at the last or second to last play on net.

This is due to the build up time of working up the ice as a 5-man unit giving lots of time for defenses to settle into their structure and make assignments. So our defence/low centre skate or pass through the breakout to bypass the forecheck, wingers make a skilled play or two for entry, but then run out of skillier options or into a defensive wall in the slot and lose the play. Anything short of perfect offensive execution or defensive foible after the entry gets turned into a rush the other way.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Guilt Trip said:
I didn't like that he went for a change instead of busting his ass to get back. I also didn't like his overall game tonight.

I don't really get this complaint. He was 35 seconds in his shift and the puck was just about at Edmonton's blue line. And with the way the change worked the player who replaced him (Matthews) was actually better positioned to get in on the upcoming rush than he was.
Go watch the highlights. The puck was at the blueline and so was Nylander and an Oiler, so no he was actually in a better spot then a guy coming off the bench seeing he was right beside the guy.
 
OldTimeHockey said:
gunnar36 said:
I really don't understand Keefe always starting Tavares in 3 on 3, especially when he is forced to keep up to McDavid on that much open ice.

The Leafs did have the first real chance in the OT. If Nylander scored, would you commend Keefe for starting Tavares and Nylander?
But they didn't score. When I saw them line up for OT, I thought, this game's over because of JT's foot speed and Nylander's not that good defensively. Turned out to be true in the end. Against anyone other then the best duo in the league it wouldn't be an issue who he started, not that this really is. I bet if it happens again it will be Matthews against McD.
Leafs got 7 out of 8 so great road trip regardless of losing the point. We'll take that all year. Leafs are going to get a much deserved break.
 
Guilt Trip said:
OldTimeHockey said:
gunnar36 said:
I really don't understand Keefe always starting Tavares in 3 on 3, especially when he is forced to keep up to McDavid on that much open ice.

The Leafs did have the first real chance in the OT. If Nylander scored, would you commend Keefe for starting Tavares and Nylander?
But they didn't score. When I saw them line up for OT, I thought, this game's over because of JT's foot speed and Nylander's not that good defensively. Turned out to be true in the end. Against anyone other then the best duo in the league it wouldn't be an issue who he started, not that this really is. I bet if it happens again it will be Matthews against McD.
Leafs got 7 out of 8 so great road trip regardless of losing the point. We'll take that all year. Leafs are going to get a much deserved break.

That hindsight really is a wonderful tool
 
Guilt Trip said:
Go watch the highlights. The puck was at the blueline and so was Nylander and an Oiler, so no he was actually in a better spot then a guy coming off the bench seeing he was right beside the guy.

VUTLag3.jpg
 
gunnar36 said:
CarltonTheBear said:
gunnar36 said:
I really don't understand Keefe always starting Tavares in 3 on 3, especially when he is forced to keep up to McDavid on that much open ice.


I don't know, that's an easy decision to criticize in hindsight. Could have just as easily been the Leafs survived that first shift and then Matthews and Marner went out against whatever crap Edmonton put out next and they scored. Or if Matthews and Marner did go out and spent their entire shift defending then you could say their offensive talents were wasted. I don't really hate the decision. It's not as if Keefe did the equivalent of sending out Komarov and Hainsey.

In general I think he needs to shelter Tavares in 3 on 3 situations against the speedier players.
Didn't Tavares score our last OT winner?
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Guilt Trip said:
Go watch the highlights. The puck was at the blueline and so was Nylander and an Oiler, so no he was actually in a better spot then a guy coming off the bench seeing he was right beside the guy.

VUTLag3.jpg
That's a lovely pic. Go back a second when Nylander's guy as you listed, had the puck. No threat, he's got his guy covered all good. Nylander's guy passes it to McD and then takes off while Nylander goes to the bench instead of skating with his man who he was actually ahead of.
 

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