Leafs re-sign Ben Scrivens

[CarltonTheBear]

Two-year deal. No other details known yet.

http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=641294

 

[Corn Flake]

huh.. any bets on whether he got a one-way deal?

 

[princedpw]

It is nice to be reminded of his shining AHL numbers again.  They may not mean too much when it comes to NHL play but we Leaf fans gotta take what we can get.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

huh.. any bets on whether he got a one-way deal?

At first I wanted to say he got one for sure, but then I wondered why this took so long. Maybe two-way first year, one-way second?

 

[princedpw]

huh.. any bets on whether he got a one-way deal?

At first I wanted to say he got one for sure, but then I wondered why this took so long. Maybe two-way first year, one-way second?

This article gave me an idea:

http://theleafsnation.com/2012/9/12/window-open-for-scrivens-to-play-in-ahl-if-signed

Scrivens might have signed for some reason having to do with the lockout and playing in the AHL.  If he didn't sign now there may be some contractual trickiness with him playing in the AHL.

 

[Corn Flake]

huh.. any bets on whether he got a one-way deal?

At first I wanted to say he got one for sure, but then I wondered why this took so long. Maybe two-way first year, one-way second?

Can you do that though? I'm not sure you can.  I think it's all or nothing on the one way vs two way approach. 

Maybe it took a while as they worked on getting him a really high AHL salary on a two-way, so if he is demoted, he earns some serious coin. He's clearly proven he can dominate at that level... might as well get paid for it.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

huh.. any bets on whether he got a one-way deal?

At first I wanted to say he got one for sure, but then I wondered why this took so long. Maybe two-way first year, one-way second?

Can you do that though? I'm not sure you can.  I think it's all or nothing on the one way vs two way approach.

Yup. It happens quite frequently with players in Scriven's position, especially goalies.

 

[Corn Flake]

huh.. any bets on whether he got a one-way deal?

At first I wanted to say he got one for sure, but then I wondered why this took so long. Maybe two-way first year, one-way second?

Can you do that though? I'm not sure you can.  I think it's all or nothing on the one way vs two way approach.

Yup. It happens quite frequently with players in Scriven's position, especially goalies.

Fair enough. 

I feel like he could easily point to the Holzer one-way and say "hey I proved as much or more than he did, so gimme one 'o' those one-way deals too".

 

[CarltonTheBear]

According to @KyleTheReporter, his contract is in fact a two-way deal in year one and one-way in year two.

 

[Peter D.]

I have no problems with this, but is it bad that my initial thought was, "Yup, we are going to enter this season with no upgrade in goal."  :-X

 

[caver]

Good news! This locks up an asset that has potential.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I feel like he could easily point to the Holzer one-way and say "hey I proved as much or more than he did, so gimme one 'o' those one-way deals too".

According to that new rule princedpw posted about, a two-way contract allows Scrivens to be waived to the AHL before the CBA expires and allows him to return to the Leafs for training camp without having to go through re-entry waivers. That also likely explains why this took so long as Burke was probably waiting for the NHL to finalize that rule. 

That's not an issue for Holzer as he's still waiver exempt.

 

[BlueWhiteBlood]

I like the structure and the room that allows the Leafs, good deal for us. I'm sure the money is reasonable.

 

[Redleaf]

According to @KyleTheReporter, his contract is in fact a two-way deal in year one and one-way in year two.

I wonder what happens next year if Scrivens and Reimer falter this season and a new number one goalie is brought in. I guess a trade is the only option in that scenario?

 

[jdh1]

I have no problems with this, but is it bad that my initial thought was, "Yup, we are going to enter this season with no upgrade in goal."  :-X

Yes you are right about no upgrade as far as a new goalie...but,I like to think of both Reims and Scrivens as maturing player upgrades.Hopefully one of these guys can be a solid no.1.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

According to @KyleTheReporter, his contract is in fact a two-way deal in year one and one-way in year two.

I wonder what happens next year if Scrivens and Reimer falter this season and a new number one goalie is brought in. I guess a trade is the only option in that scenario?

Scrivens would still be able to play in the AHL during the second year of his contact, it would just cost the Leafs his full salary. He might also take up playing time from another goalie though, especially since Sparks would be eligible to play in the AHL that season.

 

[Damian]

I have no problems with this, but is it bad that my initial thought was, "Yup, we are going to enter this season with no upgrade in goal."  :-X

Yes you are right about no upgrade as far as a new goalie...but,I like to think of both Reims and Scrivens as maturing player upgrades.Hopefully one of these guys can be a solid no.1.

We all hope so I suspect... sadly, its all we have right now.

 

[Corn Flake]

According to @KyleTheReporter, his contract is in fact a two-way deal in year one and one-way in year two.

CTB FTW!

 

[maplesyrup]

Out of curiosity, who else in the league has a similar split deal like this?

 

[Redleaf]

According to @KyleTheReporter, his contract is in fact a two-way deal in year one and one-way in year two.

I wonder what happens next year if Scrivens and Reimer falter this season and a new number one goalie is brought in. I guess a trade is the only option in that scenario?

Scrivens would still be able to play in the AHL during the second year of his contact, it would just cost the Leafs his full salary. He might also take up playing time from another goalie though, especially since Sparks would be eligible to play in the AHL that season.

Ok. Well this deal works well in either scenario then. I like it.