Leafs @ Sabres - Oct. 21st, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590

[CarltonTheBear]

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1-3-1, 3 points | 1-4-0, 2 points

Projected Lines

JVR-Kadri-Komarov Matthias-Holland-Boyes Winnik-Spaling-Lupul Grabner-Arcobello-Parenteau Gardiner-Phaneuf Rielly-Hunwick Harrington-Polak Bernier ​

Reinhart-O'Reilly-Ennis Kane-Eichel-McGinn Moulson-Girgensons-Gionta Deslaurieres-Legwand-Foligno Gorges-Ristolainen McCabe-Pysyk Weber-Franson Johnson​

Scratches

Martin Marincin Frank Corrado Tyler Bozak ​

Carlo Colaiacovo Johan Larsson​

Line-up Notes

TOR
?Bernier will get the start tonight for the Leafs
?Bozak hasn't returned to practice yet from his lower body injury and isn't expected to play
?Holland took Bozak's spot in the line-up at practice yesterday, bumping Arcobello down

BUF
?Johnson likely starts for the Sabres
?Rookie Jack Eichel has just 2 points in 5 NHL games so far, but has been creating plenty of chances
Injuries

?Stephane Robidas - Old - Out indefinitely ?Tyler Bozak - Lower Body - Questionable Wednesday​

?Robin Lehner - Ankle - Injured Reserve ?Zach Bogosian - Lower Body - Injured Reserve ?Cody McCormick - Blood Clots - Injured Reserve      ​

Stream Options

https://www.reddit.com/r/NHLstreams
http://vaughnlive.tv/leafstreamer
http://gofirstrow.eu/sport/ice-hockey.html
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[Boston Leaf]

I dind't realize they had Coliacovo....Take advantage of Fransons non foot speed

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

I dind't realize they had Coliacovo....Take advantage of Fransons non foot speed

Speaking of him, looking back, I really thought he had better #'s as a Leaf.  I know he was injured a ton but I always had this memory of him having produced more offensively than his stats seem to indicate.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Speaking of him, looking back, I really thought he had better #'s as a Leaf.  I know he was injured a ton but I always had this memory of him having produced more offensively than his stats seem to indicate.

Random fact when looking into this: In 07/08 Hal Gill was 2nd among defencemen on the team in even-strength scoring. White had 20 points. Gill, Kaberle, and Kubina all had 19. And Gill played between 9-19 less games than those 3. Good times those were.

 

[Bender]

Speaking of him, looking back, I really thought he had better #'s as a Leaf.  I know he was injured a ton but I always had this memory of him having produced more offensively than his stats seem to indicate.

Random fact when looking into this: In 07/08 Hal Gill was 2nd among defencemen on the team in even-strength scoring. White had 20 points. Gill, Kaberle, and Kubina all had 19. And Gill played between 9-19 less games than those 3. Good times those were.

I think Hal Gill had an undeserved bad rap.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Speaking of him, looking back, I really thought he had better #'s as a Leaf.  I know he was injured a ton but I always had this memory of him having produced more offensively than his stats seem to indicate.

Random fact when looking into this: In 07/08 Hal Gill was 2nd among defencemen on the team in even-strength scoring. White had 20 points. Gill, Kaberle, and Kubina all had 19. And Gill played between 9-19 less games than those 3. Good times those were.

I think Hal Gill had an undeserved bad rap.

Nah it was definitely deserved, the knock on him was his mobility, which was getting worse in a league that was transitioning to being all about quick skating players.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

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Gardiner will miss tonights game with an injury. No word on the severity of it right now.

 

[Kin]

Shanahan's getting Hunter to shiv guys if they score points in two straight games.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

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Gardiner will miss tonights game with an injury. No word on the severity of it right now.

Corrado or Marincin?

I feel bad for Jake, has a coach that loves him now and was off to a good start, hope it's nothing serious.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Corrado or Marincin?

Marinicn.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I think Hal Gill had an undeserved bad rap.

Nah it was definitely deserved, the knock on him was his mobility, which was getting worse in a league that was transitioning to being all about quick skating players.

I was actually going to say, did he have a bad rap as a Leaf? I never really remember him being a punching bag or anything for fans. I do agree with Bender though, he was probably under appreciated as a Leaf. Had a 53.8 CF% as a Leaf and scored at a pretty decent rate too which was unexpected. I remember he and White formed a good bottom pairing.

 

[LuncheonMeat]

Corrado or Marincin?

Marinicn.

I'm a little bit surprised that Corrado hasn't seen a game yet. I figured learning Babcock's systems might be a stumbling block early on, but he's had a fair bit of practice time now.

Edit: 4-1 Sabres, and Eichel with a 3-point night.

 

[Tigger]

Speaking of him, looking back, I really thought he had better #'s as a Leaf.  I know he was injured a ton but I always had this memory of him having produced more offensively than his stats seem to indicate.

Random fact when looking into this: In 07/08 Hal Gill was 2nd among defencemen on the team in even-strength scoring. White had 20 points. Gill, Kaberle, and Kubina all had 19. And Gill played between 9-19 less games than those 3. Good times those were.

I think Hal Gill had an undeserved bad rap.

Nah it was definitely deserved, the knock on him was his mobility, which was getting worse in a league that was transitioning to being all about quick skating players.

'Pylon' was the word used frequently to describe him around these parts back then.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Shanahan's getting Hunter to shiv guys if they score points in two straight games.

You know, I don't think that anybody has actually seen Tyler Bozak for a few days...

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Corrado or Marincin?

Marinicn.

If you're looking to replace Gardiner's skill set, wouldn't Corrado make a little more sense?

He is apparently more of a two-way skating guy than Marincin seems to be, no?

 

[CarltonTheBear]

If you're looking to replace Gardiner's skill set, wouldn't Corrado make a little more sense?

He is apparently more of a two-way skating guy than Marincin seems to be, no?

I'd say that they're probably pretty similar defencemen. Corrado sounds like he's a bit better in the offensive zone while Marincin has the slight edge in the defensive zone. Corrado's a right-handed shot though, so maybe they're hoping Gardiner is only out for 1 game and they want a left-handed shot so their other pairings aren't disrupted?

 

[ZBBM]

If you're looking to replace Gardiner's skill set, wouldn't Corrado make a little more sense?

He is apparently more of a two-way skating guy than Marincin seems to be, no?

I'd say that they're probably pretty similar defencemen. Corrado sounds like he's a bit better in the offensive zone while Marincin has the slight edge in the defensive zone. Corrado's a right-handed shot though, so maybe they're hoping Gardiner is only out for 1 game and they want a left-handed shot so their other pairings aren't disrupted?

That would make sense.  OTOH sooner or later they need to get Corrado into a game, and this season it hardly matters which.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

That would make sense.  OTOH sooner or later they need to get Corrado into a game, and this season it hardly matters which.

It's only a matter of time before he starts rotating in for Polak. Phaneuf's on the right side and I don't see them breaking up the Rielly-Hunwick pairing any time soon so that's the only spot that he can take.

 

[ZBBM]

That would make sense.  OTOH sooner or later they need to get Corrado into a game, and this season it hardly matters which.

It's only a matter of time before he starts rotating in for Polak. Phaneuf's on the right side and I don't see them breaking up the Rielly-Hunwick pairing any time soon so that's the only spot that he can take.

I'm down with that.  BTW I like Polak myself, a decent d-man who has more speed than some give him credit for, but he really needs to be shipped at the deadline or earlier if there is any market for him.

 

[L K]

Shanahan's getting Hunter to shiv guys if they score points in two straight games.

You know, I don't think that anybody has actually seen Tyler Bozak for a few days...

Check Phil's luggage.