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Leafs sign Troy Bodie

Potvin29 said:
Frank E said:
the future really doesn't look all that bright with anything significant coming down the pipe. 

Not really accurate anymore to say there isn't anything significant coming down the pipe.

I'll argue that the only prospects knocking on the door right now have 3rd line or 2nd pairing ceilings.

Nylander is likely a couple of years away, so who else are we excited about?
 
Frank E said:
Potvin29 said:
Frank E said:
the future really doesn't look all that bright with anything significant coming down the pipe. 

Not really accurate anymore to say there isn't anything significant coming down the pipe.

I'll argue that the only prospects knocking on the door right now have 3rd line or 2nd pairing ceilings.

Nylander is likely a couple of years away, so who else are we excited about?

Well Nylander is something significant coming down the pipeline, whether that is next season or 2 seasons away.  Rielly is arguably still as well considering he will only continue to get more minutes and have a greater impact.
 
Frank E said:
Nik the Trik said:
Frank E said:
Glad to see this one too. 

Maybe Nonis and Shanny aren't stupid dummies after all.

I don't know about "aren't stupid dummies" or anything but I do think that the decision to keep Carlyle around was incorrectly interpreted by some as Shanahan and Nonis thinking that there weren't serious changes needed or that they should just stay the course.

Well, the fact that they were pretty "in" on signing Bolland to a pretty significant price tag, I'm not convinced that they are really changing course.  The team as built today looks pretty mediocre, and the future really doesn't look all that bright with anything significant coming down the pipe. 

Is anyone really suggesting that the team's future looks brighter with the added talent, or is the consensus just that people are happy they didn't sign another Clarkson type deal?
While I'm happy that they didn't sign another stupid contract like the Clarkson deal, I think that overall the Leafs are about the same as they were last year at this point.

What I don't understand is why they have neglected having a true #1 center for so long.  Perhaps it is because of Kessel's chemistry with Bozak.
 
Frank E said:
Nylander is likely a couple of years away, so who else are we excited about?

I don't think Nylander's that far away, to be honest. He could make the roster this season.
 
bustaheims said:
Frank E said:
Nylander is likely a couple of years away, so who else are we excited about?

I don't think Nylander's that far away, to be honest. He could make the roster this season.

Just anecdotal but it seems like more and more 18 year olds are making the jump.  Teams don't seem to be as concerned in recent years with having them make the jump right away to the NHL.
 
sickbeast said:
Frank E said:
Nik the Trik said:
Frank E said:
Glad to see this one too. 

Maybe Nonis and Shanny aren't stupid dummies after all.

I don't know about "aren't stupid dummies" or anything but I do think that the decision to keep Carlyle around was incorrectly interpreted by some as Shanahan and Nonis thinking that there weren't serious changes needed or that they should just stay the course.

Well, the fact that they were pretty "in" on signing Bolland to a pretty significant price tag, I'm not convinced that they are really changing course.  The team as built today looks pretty mediocre, and the future really doesn't look all that bright with anything significant coming down the pipe. 

Is anyone really suggesting that the team's future looks brighter with the added talent, or is the consensus just that people are happy they didn't sign another Clarkson type deal?
While I'm happy that they didn't sign another stupid contract like the Clarkson deal, I think that overall the Leafs are about the same as they were last year at this point.

What I don't understand is why they have neglected having a true #1 center for so long.  Perhaps it is because of Kessel's chemistry with Bozak.

I think they spent (and ultimately wasted) some time waiting on Joe Colborne, hoping he would morph into something he never could.  Because #1 C is such an expensive and rare commodity it is best to use homegrown talent. 
At the time Lecavalier went to PHI I was hopeful the Leafs would snatch him but now I am glad they didn't.
 
Frank E said:
Well, the fact that they were pretty "in" on signing Bolland to a pretty significant price tag, I'm not convinced that they are really changing course.  The team as built today looks pretty mediocre, and the future really doesn't look all that bright with anything significant coming down the pipe. 

I more meant strategically but even then while I had absolutely no interest in Bolland because of the cost and term, I don't necessarily think that signing him would have been bad either. I think the problem with Bolland is that the contract presented a terrible risk and the Leafs are among the last teams in the league whose position would let them take that sort of a risk. I don't think Dale Tallon, who was willing to take that risk, is a stupid person either.

Frank E said:
Is anyone really suggesting that the team's future looks brighter with the added talent, or is the consensus just that people are happy they didn't sign another Clarkson type deal?

Well, just personally, I think the way I looked at it was that realistically nothing that happened in free agency was going to leave the Leafs in a drastically different position than where they where going in. Stastny wasn't coming here, Dan Boyle probably wasn't either. The best case scenario for the Leafs was to not sign any bad contracts and maybe give the current core another year with, and this is where my point comes into play, hopefully a playbook that doesn't make them look as bad as they did last year.
 
bustaheims said:
Frank E said:
Nylander is likely a couple of years away, so who else are we excited about?

I don't think Nylander's that far away, to be honest. He could make the roster this season.

It's probably fair to say that Nylander could be on the roster sooner than that but it's pretty unlikely that Nylander is going to be an impact player before then.
 
hap_leaf said:
sickbeast said:
Frank E said:
Nik the Trik said:
Frank E said:
Glad to see this one too. 

Maybe Nonis and Shanny aren't stupid dummies after all.

I don't know about "aren't stupid dummies" or anything but I do think that the decision to keep Carlyle around was incorrectly interpreted by some as Shanahan and Nonis thinking that there weren't serious changes needed or that they should just stay the course.

Well, the fact that they were pretty "in" on signing Bolland to a pretty significant price tag, I'm not convinced that they are really changing course.  The team as built today looks pretty mediocre, and the future really doesn't look all that bright with anything significant coming down the pipe. 

Is anyone really suggesting that the team's future looks brighter with the added talent, or is the consensus just that people are happy they didn't sign another Clarkson type deal?
While I'm happy that they didn't sign another stupid contract like the Clarkson deal, I think that overall the Leafs are about the same as they were last year at this point.

What I don't understand is why they have neglected having a true #1 center for so long.  Perhaps it is because of Kessel's chemistry with Bozak.

I think they spent (and ultimately wasted) some time waiting on Joe Colborne, hoping he would morph into something he never could.  Because #1 C is such an expensive and rare commodity it is best to use homegrown talent. 
At the time Lecavalier went to PHI I was hopeful the Leafs would snatch him but now I am glad they didn't.
Please don't say that out loud, before you know it Nonis will be calling Hextall to make a trade...and I'm sure we will retain salary no matter who we trade...
 
Frank E said:
Nik the Trik said:
Frank E said:
Glad to see this one too. 

Maybe Nonis and Shanny aren't stupid dummies after all.

I don't know about "aren't stupid dummies" or anything but I do think that the decision to keep Carlyle around was incorrectly interpreted by some as Shanahan and Nonis thinking that there weren't serious changes needed or that they should just stay the course.

Well, the fact that they were pretty "in" on signing Bolland to a pretty significant price tag, I'm not convinced that they are really changing course.  The team as built today looks pretty mediocre, and the future really doesn't look all that bright with anything significant coming down the pipe. 

Is anyone really suggesting that the team's future looks brighter with the added talent, or is the consensus just that people are happy they didn't sign another Clarkson type deal?

To me I'm still choked that they gave Carlyle an extension - not because of any money of course but to me it gives an impression that overall his performance was satisfactory when it's the furthest thing from the truth.

And yes, I'm most relieved that there was stupider GM's out there (Bolland leaving was a massive relief).

 
lamajama said:
To me I'm still choked that they gave Carlyle an extension - not because of any money of course but to me it gives an impression that overall his performance was satisfactory when it's the furthest thing from the truth.

Well, retaining him should have done that more than the extension. Keeping him but not giving him an extension would have been the head scratcher.
 
Potvin29 said:
Deal is $600,000, 1 year.

So the same contract that he came off of. That's awesome, with the season he had I figured he'd get a slight raise maybe to $800-900k. I know it's not a massive difference, but it's still crazy that he makes less than Orr AND McLaren despite being a much better player.
 
Bodie was probably the most improved player of last year.  He promised  to improve his game and it showed.  Worked hard, skated well, even started contributing offensively though that may not be his best asset.  He's also big enough and tough enough to 'take good care of things' should it necessitate.

Overall, a good package.  Glad he's back.
 
If there's an award for effort, Bodie would have won it as best of the Leafs roster. Clearly he doesn't have exceptional skill, but he didn't take an easy stride last year and that's the kind of player that's easy to root for.

I expect he'll be in and out of the press box this year, now that there's more depth in the bottom 6, but I doubt anyone will give more back on the ice for 600K.
 
Patrick said:
I wouldn't be surprised if he gave us a home team discount. His wife is probably happy to still be living near her dad.

I think it has everything to do with him being Leiweke's son-in-law. I'm sure there would be some locker room rasing over this fact.

It's funny how they signed him a few days after July 1... no one wants you? Alright son we'll sign you.
 
cabber24 said:
Patrick said:
I wouldn't be surprised if he gave us a home team discount. His wife is probably happy to still be living near her dad.

I think it has everything to do with him being Leiweke's son-in-law. I'm sure there would be some locker room rasing over this fact.

It's funny how they signed him a few days after July 1... no one wants you? Alright son we'll sign you.

How do you know nobody wants him?
 
cabber24 said:
Patrick said:
I wouldn't be surprised if he gave us a home team discount. His wife is probably happy to still be living near her dad.

I think it has everything to do with him being Leiweke's son-in-law. I'm sure there would be some locker room rasing over this fact.

It's funny how they signed him a few days after July 1... no one wants you? Alright son we'll sign you.

he is a energy guy who IMO just wants the opportunity to play regularly
 

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