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Leafs @ Wild - Dec. 3rd, 8:00pm - TSN4. TSN 1050

Patrick said:
Did they force Dumba to drop the #55?

http://wildxtra.com/articles.html/_/minnesota-wild-news/minnesota-wild/matt-dumba-ruins-a-good-joke-goes-back-to-24-r787

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/wilds-dumba-gets-blessing-from-boogaards-family-changes-jersey-to-no-24/

It's a bit of a waste to drop Dumba55, but he wanted to go back to the number he wore in junior.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Screw all these bright ideas for making the net bigger/wider/taller.

I get the desire for more goals, but I don't like the idea of changing the size of the goalmouth. It's the one thing that's been constant throughout the history of the league. Change the equipment, adjust the rules, etc. These things have always been fluid. The net is 4x6, and should stay 4x6.
 
bustaheims said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Screw all these bright ideas for making the net bigger/wider/taller.

I get the desire for more goals, but I don't like the idea of changing the size of the goalmouth. It's the one thing that's been constant throughout the history of the league. Change the equipment, adjust the rules, etc. These things have always been fluid. The net is 4x6, and should stay 4x6.

If they do give in, they can just close the record book and start a new one because it will be NHL 2.0.

EDIT: if these guys can resist, so should Bettman:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/science/crispr-cas9-human-genome-editing-moratorium.html
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
If they do give in, they can just close the record book and start a new one because it will be NHL 2.0.

Would that really be awful? Not like anybody is touching any of those records set in the 80s.

Also, what does protecting the sanctity of the rulebook have to do with making the game any better?
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
If they do give in, they can just close the record book and start a new one because it will be NHL 2.0.

Would that really be awful? Not like anybody is touching any of those records set in the 80s.

Also, what does protecting the sanctity of the rulebook have to do with making the game any better?

Yeah, it would be awful.  Beyond awful.  A lot of pleasure in following sports is comparing players from different eras.  That would be out the window with bigger nets because it directly affects the object of the game.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Yeah, it would be awful.  Beyond awful.  A lot of pleasure in following sports is comparing players from different eras.  That would be out the window with bigger nets because it directly affects the object of the game.

Directly affects the object of the game? I mean I don't know about that, but ok. We already can't compare players to different era's though. If we did that properly we'd recognize Ovechkin for being arguably the greatest goal scorer in the history of the game, as we should.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Nice drive by Froese to set that up.

They've been buzzing 2 games in a row.

Tough break getting that called back, but it was the right call.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
Yeah, it would be awful.  Beyond awful.  A lot of pleasure in following sports is comparing players from different eras.  That would be out the window with bigger nets because it directly affects the object of the game.

Directly affects the object of the game? I mean I don't know about that, but ok. We already can't compare players to different era's though. If we did that properly we'd recognize Ovechkin for being arguably the greatest goal scorer in the history of the game, as we should.

What don't you know about it?

And why can't you compare players now?  Of course you can.
 
Nice seeing a goal celebration and my first thought is 'will it count?'. I don't know if it's the same leauge itselfe or if I just don't enjoy watching hockey as much as I used too. It's seriously boring.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
What don't you know about it?

You're making it sound like adding 2-4 inches to the top of the net (or whatever they'd want to do) would change the entire fabric of hockey. I don't see that. At least not any more than any other technological difference that the game has seen in the last 20-40 years.

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
And why can't you compare players now?  Of course you can.

But when you're comparing players don't you always have to adjust for the era to take into consideration the massive differences in the game between how it was played in the 80s to how it's played today?

And generally when you are comparing players from a different era it's within the context of how that player was in his peers. Sidney Crosby is comparable to Wayne Gretzky because they were both the best players of their generation, But Crosby was never even close to putting up the types of numbers Wayne did in his day. So it's not like that idea would change as every player playing at one time would still be shooting at the same net.
 
As far as the record book being ruined goes, nobody actually thinks a minor change to the net is going to threaten Gretzky's record of 92 goals in a season or 215 points, right?
 
Yep, that's exactly what I'm saying.  Any increase makes it a fundamentally different game because you are changing the one variable most directly responsible for determining the object of the game.  That's what would invalidate comparisons with previous eras.  Now, you can make the kind of comparative adjustments you are talking about and still have some basis for contunuity.  Bigger nets, it's out the window.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
As far as the record book being ruined goes, nobody actually thinks a minor change to the net is going to threaten Gretzky's record of 92 goals in a season or 215 points, right?

It's not that it would be ruined -- it would closed to comparison.
 

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