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Luke Schenn

He finished 8th in TOI/game last season and is 6th this season at 16 mins. His -6 leads the league after two games. Of the 8 goals the Flyers have given up, he was on the ice for 6 of them(one that he wasn't on the ice for was an empty netter).  He's pressing the case that he's the worst dman on a bad D ... which means he may be looking on from the press box shortly.

When the Flyers fans and media get on your case ...

It's kind of sad as he seemed like a decent guy.

With the Flyers weak D and goaltending, I suspect they're heading to be on the outside looking in this spring.
 
when Burkie figured out he had a worse pylon than pantload Phaneuf he didn't sign him to a 50Mill contract, he fleeced Phili out of JVR?what a deal..
Now if we could only get half as much for the Pylon
 
cw said:
He finished 8th in TOI/game last season and is 6th this season at 16 mins. His -6 leads the league after two games. Of the 8 goals the Flyers have given up, he was on the ice for 6 of them(one that he wasn't on the ice for was an empty netter).  He's pressing the case that he's the worst dman on a bad D ... which means he may be looking on from the press box shortly.

When the Flyers fans and media get on your case ...

It's kind of sad as he seemed like a decent guy.

With the Flyers weak D and goaltending, I suspect they're heading to be on the outside looking in this spring.
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How much of that is just bad luck as well though?

Flyers D Luke Schenn was minus-5, partner Michael Del Zotto was minus-4, yet Del Zotto was on for 30 shot attempts for, compared to only nine against (76.9%), while Schenn had 25 for and nine against (73.5%).
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http://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-avs-live-up-or-down-to-reputation-1.103809

5 goals on 9 shot attempts against?  Clearly its a mix of giving up high quality chances and some bad luck. 

At the end of the day, both sets of stats go to show that you can't just use possession stats or plus/minus to say how well someone is playing. 


At the other end of the spectrum:

The line of Granlund, Parise and Pominville was ridiculously dominant, getting 92% of the shot attempts when they were on the ice.  Only 2 Shot Attempts against, and 7 points between them!
 
Coco-puffs said:
cw said:
He finished 8th in TOI/game last season and is 6th this season at 16 mins. His -6 leads the league after two games. Of the 8 goals the Flyers have given up, he was on the ice for 6 of them(one that he wasn't on the ice for was an empty netter).  He's pressing the case that he's the worst dman on a bad D ... which means he may be looking on from the press box shortly.

When the Flyers fans and media get on your case ...

It's kind of sad as he seemed like a decent guy.

With the Flyers weak D and goaltending, I suspect they're heading to be on the outside looking in this spring.
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How much of that is just bad luck as well though?

Flyers D Luke Schenn was minus-5, partner Michael Del Zotto was minus-4, yet Del Zotto was on for 30 shot attempts for, compared to only nine against (76.9%), while Schenn had 25 for and nine against (73.5%).
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http://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-avs-live-up-or-down-to-reputation-1.103809

5 goals on 9 shot attempts against?  Clearly its a mix of giving up high quality chances and some bad luck. 

At the end of the day, both sets of stats go to show that you can't just use possession stats or plus/minus to say how well someone is playing. 


At the other end of the spectrum:

The line of Granlund, Parise and Pominville was ridiculously dominant, getting 92% of the shot attempts when they were on the ice.  Only 2 Shot Attempts against, and 7 points between them!
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I'm sure they were not all his fault though he did say it was a "bad day at the office" for him and several others criticized his play.

But the part that's striking is his ice time which slipped last year significantly to a #6 dman on a weak D. I can't believe that was their expectation when they traded JVR for him. Although he's only 24, after a number of years in the league, he should be further along - a top 4.
 
I should clarify that the original post of mine was more of a 'that's just rough' kind of night for Schenn whether he was at fault or not - being on the ice for that many goals against in one game must just suck.
 
So Luke Schenn has played 705 games in the NHL, and he is 28.  Lets say he manages to play 5 more years.  He'll have a shot at getting to 1000 games by the time he is 33. 

To put that in to perspective, Ovechkin's next game is his 1000th, and he is 32. 

Funny how Schenn has managed to consistently get put in to a lineup over the years. 
 
Significantly Insignificant said:
So Luke Schenn has played 705 games in the NHL, and he is 28.  Lets say he manages to play 5 more years.  He'll have a shot at getting to 1000 games by the time he is 33. 

To put that in to perspective, Ovechkin's next game is his 1000th, and he is 32. 

Funny how Schenn has managed to consistently get put in to a lineup over the years.
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I suppose. Although the issue with him here was he was never going to be the perfect 2/3 guy he was sold as and that would justify his draft spot.

But the idea that he would carve out a solid career as a Polak type? I buy it.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Significantly Insignificant said:
So Luke Schenn has played 705 games in the NHL, and he is 28.  Lets say he manages to play 5 more years.  He'll have a shot at getting to 1000 games by the time he is 33. 

To put that in to perspective, Ovechkin's next game is his 1000th, and he is 32. 

Funny how Schenn has managed to consistently get put in to a lineup over the years.
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I suppose. Although the issue with him here was he was never going to be the perfect 2/3 guy he was sold as and that would justify his draft spot.

But the idea that he would carve out a solid career as a Polak type? I buy it.
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Yeah, his draft position does play in to this.  I mean if you look at a guy like Hainsey though, he is 37, and he'll cross the 1000 game mark some time next season.  I guess Hainsey got better over time, and Schenn started strong, but is now carving out an NHL career playing in a 5-6 role. 
 
Nik the Trik said:
Significantly Insignificant said:
So Luke Schenn has played 705 games in the NHL, and he is 28.  Lets say he manages to play 5 more years.  He'll have a shot at getting to 1000 games by the time he is 33. 

To put that in to perspective, Ovechkin's next game is his 1000th, and he is 32. 

Funny how Schenn has managed to consistently get put in to a lineup over the years.
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I suppose. Although the issue with him here was he was never going to be the perfect 2/3 guy he was sold as and that would justify his draft spot.

But the idea that he would carve out a solid career as a Polak type? I buy it.
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I thought the narrative on Schenn was that he was probably a guy who would have excelled in the old NHL during the clutch and grab era.  His lack of speed is what limits him as a top defensive player.
 
Arn said:
I'd take Schenn over Polak now....
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Polak was actually pretty good against the Bruins. Funny thing he lead the team in plus/minus lol.. We need a Polak type guy but with better hands for getting the puck out.
 
L K said:
I thought the narrative on Schenn was that he was probably a guy who would have excelled in the old NHL during the clutch and grab era.  His lack of speed is what limits him as a top defensive player.
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He should join the Bruins then, so he can get away with it. :P
 
louisstamos said:
L K said:
I thought the narrative on Schenn was that he was probably a guy who would have excelled in the old NHL during the clutch and grab era.  His lack of speed is what limits him as a top defensive player.
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He should join the Bruins then, so he can get away with it. :P
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Smart idea! He could then also add punching people in the face and body slams to the ice to his repertoire.
 
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