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?I definitely didn?t take a discount when I signed that deal,? he told reporters post-game. ?I think that?s totally fair for where I was at.
Guilt Trip said:That article means nothing. The Avs were looking at trading him back then. Many said wow, that's a lot of money for him. Let's see how much of a discount he actually takes when the time comes. Is he going to take 12, 13 mill instead of 14? Much about nothing.
Ah c'mon, I can scoff if I want. We'll see when the time comes.Bullfrog said:Guilt Trip said:That article means nothing. The Avs were looking at trading him back then. Many said wow, that's a lot of money for him. Let's see how much of a discount he actually takes when the time comes. Is he going to take 12, 13 mill instead of 14? Much about nothing.
Don't scoff, that's 10% off!
CarltonTheBear said:Complaining our guys didn't get a MacKinnon like contract is basically just saying you wished they were worse hockey players in their 2nd and 3rd years of their ELCs.
azzurri63 said:Hard to compare players to what they sign for compared to others in their calibre when signing in different years. I'm not arguing that. If Nylander would have signed same time as Pasta he (Nylander) wouldn't have gotten the nearly 7 million he signed for.
bustaheims said:azzurri63 said:Hard to compare players to what they sign for compared to others in their calibre when signing in different years. I'm not arguing that. If Nylander would have signed same time as Pasta he (Nylander) wouldn't have gotten the nearly 7 million he signed for.
This is such garbage. When Pastrnak signed his contract, he had 123 points in 172 games (0.72 points/game). When Nylander signed his, he had 48 goal, 135 points in 185 games (0.73 points/game). So, with virtually identical point/game, Nylander would t have gotten near $7M when Pastrnak got close to that? You could not be more wrong.
Leafs can sign a decent backup. Trade a guy like Hyman for picks/prospect and you've got the cash. They could also move Johnsson if they wanted/needed to. I don't think he's had a very good year considering where he's playing. His point totals aren't good enough for me considering he got lots of PP1 time. I didn't mention CC because not sure he's tradable.azzurri63 said:Hard to compare players to what they sign for compared to others in their calibre when signing in different years. I'm not arguing that. If Nylander would have signed same time as Pasta he (Nylander) wouldn't have gotten the nearly 7 million he signed for.
The point I'm trying to make and let's see when the time comes as to what MacKinnon will do.
All 3 Leaf youngsters signed for the max. Other concern I had was 2 of them held out to get as much out of Dubas as possible. I would have said see you later.
Because of it we can't even sign a good backup ffs.
No one wishes these guys flop. I would love to see this team win as much as the rest of you but plain and simple Dubas overpaid and got schooled on all 3 contracts.
He should have stood firm with Nylander and say hey this is the max we are offering. Don't like it see you later. He didn't Nylander milked him and the other 2 saw this and got the max.
You guys happy with their play. I'm not and definitely not at what they are getting paid.
Again we'll see when the time comes a lot can change. But as Bullfrog said even 10% for the fab 3 would have saved us around 3 million. Decent backup maybe not like the sh*tshow we've been witnessing.
bustaheims said:This is such garbage. When Pastrnak signed his contract, he had 123 points in 172 games (0.72 points/game). When Nylander signed his, he had 48 goal, 135 points in 185 games (0.73 points/game). So, with virtually identical point/game, Nylander would t have gotten near $7M when Pastrnak got close to that? You could not be more wrong.
Frycer14 said:bustaheims said:This is such garbage. When Pastrnak signed his contract, he had 123 points in 172 games (0.72 points/game). When Nylander signed his, he had 48 goal, 135 points in 185 games (0.73 points/game). So, with virtually identical point/game, Nylander would t have gotten near $7M when Pastrnak got close to that? You could not be more wrong.
You're definitely right, he was worth the 7M based on his stats and he got it, and it never should have taken so long. What I do think has some merit is a debate on how Dubas went about negotiating that deal, and how it impacted his bargaining position on his other RFA signings. IMO he tried to play hardball, lost, and had to overcompensate on the other two.
Guilt Trip said:Leafs can sign a decent backup. Trade a guy like Hyman for picks/prospect and you've got the cash. They could also move Johnsson if they wanted/needed to. I don't think he's had a very good year considering where he's playing. His point totals aren't good enough for me considering he got lots of PP1 time. I didn't mention CC because not sure he's tradable.azzurri63 said:Hard to compare players to what they sign for compared to others in their calibre when signing in different years. I'm not arguing that. If Nylander would have signed same time as Pasta he (Nylander) wouldn't have gotten the nearly 7 million he signed for.
The point I'm trying to make and let's see when the time comes as to what MacKinnon will do.
All 3 Leaf youngsters signed for the max. Other concern I had was 2 of them held out to get as much out of Dubas as possible. I would have said see you later.
Because of it we can't even sign a good backup ffs.
No one wishes these guys flop. I would love to see this team win as much as the rest of you but plain and simple Dubas overpaid and got schooled on all 3 contracts.
He should have stood firm with Nylander and say hey this is the max we are offering. Don't like it see you later. He didn't Nylander milked him and the other 2 saw this and got the max.
You guys happy with their play. I'm not and definitely not at what they are getting paid.
Again we'll see when the time comes a lot can change. But as Bullfrog said even 10% for the fab 3 would have saved us around 3 million. Decent backup maybe not like the sh*tshow we've been witnessing.
Nik Bethune said:Of all the stupid things in this thread, and there are a lot of stupid things, by far the cream of the crop is saying "I would have traded any player who held out" while at the same time whining that the Leafs should have more deals like the Pastrnak one.