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Mackinnon On Next Contract

azzurri63 said:
He's not worth what Pasternak got. He got more because the market was what it was.

Nylander got a smaller % of the cap than Pastrnak did.

You're missing the point though. Pastrnak held out. Should the Bruins have traded him because he held out the way you think Dubas should have with Marner and Nylander? Or was that just more fake tough guy nonsense like you usually spew?
 
azzurri63 said:
Guilt Trip said:
azzurri63 said:
Hard to compare players to what they sign for compared to others in their calibre when signing in different years. I'm not arguing that. If Nylander would have signed same time as Pasta he (Nylander) wouldn't have gotten the nearly 7 million he signed for.

The point I'm trying to make and let's see when the time comes as to what MacKinnon will do.

All 3 Leaf youngsters signed for the max. Other concern I had was 2 of them held out to get as much out of Dubas as possible. I would have said see you later.

Because of it we can't even sign a good backup ffs.

No one wishes these guys flop. I would love to see this team win as much as the rest of you but plain and simple Dubas overpaid and got schooled on all 3 contracts.

He should have stood firm with Nylander and say hey this is the max we are offering. Don't like it see you later. He didn't Nylander milked him and the other 2 saw this and got the max.

You guys happy with their play. I'm not and definitely not at what they are getting paid.

Again we'll see when the time comes a lot can change. But as Bullfrog said even 10% for the fab 3 would have saved us around 3 million. Decent backup maybe not like the sh*tshow we've been witnessing.
Leafs can sign a decent backup. Trade a guy like Hyman for picks/prospect and you've got the cash. They could also move Johnsson if they wanted/needed to. I don't think he's had a very good year considering where he's playing. His point totals aren't good enough for me considering he got lots of PP1 time. I didn't mention CC because not sure he's tradable.

Really. Think some of you are missing my point. There should be no reason to trade anyone for a backup. That could have been avoided if we didn't overpay.
You said we can't even sign a good backup ffs. I just showed you a way we could. This notion that Dubas' hands are tied and we can't pay for a capable backup simply isn't true. And if you don't have a capable in your system you either get one via FA or you trade for one. Sometimes you do have to trade to obtain an asset you need.
 
Guilt Trip said:
azzurri63 said:
Guilt Trip said:
azzurri63 said:
Hard to compare players to what they sign for compared to others in their calibre when signing in different years. I'm not arguing that. If Nylander would have signed same time as Pasta he (Nylander) wouldn't have gotten the nearly 7 million he signed for.

The point I'm trying to make and let's see when the time comes as to what MacKinnon will do.

All 3 Leaf youngsters signed for the max. Other concern I had was 2 of them held out to get as much out of Dubas as possible. I would have said see you later.

Because of it we can't even sign a good backup ffs.

No one wishes these guys flop. I would love to see this team win as much as the rest of you but plain and simple Dubas overpaid and got schooled on all 3 contracts.

He should have stood firm with Nylander and say hey this is the max we are offering. Don't like it see you later. He didn't Nylander milked him and the other 2 saw this and got the max.

You guys happy with their play. I'm not and definitely not at what they are getting paid.

Again we'll see when the time comes a lot can change. But as Bullfrog said even 10% for the fab 3 would have saved us around 3 million. Decent backup maybe not like the sh*tshow we've been witnessing.
Leafs can sign a decent backup. Trade a guy like Hyman for picks/prospect and you've got the cash. They could also move Johnsson if they wanted/needed to. I don't think he's had a very good year considering where he's playing. His point totals aren't good enough for me considering he got lots of PP1 time. I didn't mention CC because not sure he's tradable.

Really. Think some of you are missing my point. There should be no reason to trade anyone for a backup. That could have been avoided if we didn't overpay.
You said we can't even sign a good backup ffs. I just showed you a way we could. This notion that Dubas' hands are tied and we can't pay for a capable backup simply isn't true. And if you don't have a capable in your system you either get one via FA or you trade for one. Sometimes you do have to trade to obtain an asset you need.
 
Signing a backup and trading for one are 2 different things.

We can't sign one because we have no room. No s**t we can trade for one but again my point is and was it shouldn't have come to that. Having to trade any asset for a backup goalie who Dubas could have signed for very little is a waste.

Anyway done with the whole topic. Nice chatting with you guys.
 
azzurri63 said:
Signing a backup and trading for one are 2 different things.

We can't sign one because we have no room. No s**t we can trade for one but again my point is and was it shouldn't have come to that. Having to trade any asset for a backup goalie who Dubas could have signed for very little is a waste.

Anyway done with the whole topic. Nice chatting with you guys.
Who is out there that we can hypothetically sign or could've signed in the offseason barring trade?
 
Bender said:
azzurri63 said:
Signing a backup and trading for one are 2 different things.

We can't sign one because we have no room. No s**t we can trade for one but again my point is and was it shouldn't have come to that. Having to trade any asset for a backup goalie who Dubas could have signed for very little is a waste.

Anyway done with the whole topic. Nice chatting with you guys.
Who is out there that we can hypothetically sign or could've signed in the offseason barring trade?
He ll get back to you. Lol
 
Guilt Trip said:
Bender said:
azzurri63 said:
Signing a backup and trading for one are 2 different things.

We can't sign one because we have no room. No s**t we can trade for one but again my point is and was it shouldn't have come to that. Having to trade any asset for a backup goalie who Dubas could have signed for very little is a waste.

Anyway done with the whole topic. Nice chatting with you guys.
Who is out there that we can hypothetically sign or could've signed in the offseason barring trade?
He ll get back to you. Lol
I mean, I agree that it should've been addressed over the summer but if a clear upgrade they were confident about that fit under their cap was an FA then wouldn't they sign that guy?
 
Bender said:
Guilt Trip said:
Bender said:
azzurri63 said:
Signing a backup and trading for one are 2 different things.

We can't sign one because we have no room. No s**t we can trade for one but again my point is and was it shouldn't have come to that. Having to trade any asset for a backup goalie who Dubas could have signed for very little is a waste.

Anyway done with the whole topic. Nice chatting with you guys.
Who is out there that we can hypothetically sign or could've signed in the offseason barring trade?
He ll get back to you. Lol
I mean, I agree that it should've been addressed over the summer but if a clear upgrade they were confident about that fit under their cap was an FA then wouldn't they sign that guy?
Yup they would have. Neuvirth was the ultimate swing at the fences. I say KK will get another shot.
 

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