Make Max Domi a Leaf!!!

[CareyHeilman]

I believe that a player like Domi would be a good addition to the Leafs and worth chasing! The right coach could to a lot with the player I saw at the world juniors!

 

[Kin]

We are never going to agree on the general aspects of Domi, but he's absolutely not a guy I would target to acquire.  We already have Nylander, Leipsic and Brown as decent smaller prospects.  There is also a pretty reasonable chance that we may add Marner to the fold. 

Huh, you know, I never really thought about it in that sense but I wonder if that's what is driving some of the Crouse speculation.

 

[Frank E]

We are never going to agree on the general aspects of Domi, but he's absolutely not a guy I would target to acquire.  We already have Nylander, Leipsic and Brown as decent smaller prospects.  There is also a pretty reasonable chance that we may add Marner to the fold. 

Huh, you know, I never really thought about it in that sense but I wonder if that's what is driving some of the Crouse speculation.

I really have been thinking about that...it was one of the reasons that Crouse was interesting to me.

Strome isn't a small guy though, and I'd have trouble picking Crouse over Strome.

But if Strome and Hannafin are off the table (say Leafs are picking 5th), then adding Marner would be adding another diminutive top-6 guy...I wonder if they'd rather one of the bigger centers?

 

[rdowdall]

We are never going to agree on the general aspects of Domi, but he's absolutely not a guy I would target to acquire.  We already have Nylander, Leipsic and Brown as decent smaller prospects.  There is also a pretty reasonable chance that we may add Marner to the fold. 

Huh, you know, I never really thought about it in that sense but I wonder if that's what is driving some of the Crouse speculation.

I really have been thinking about that...it was one of the reasons that Crouse was interesting to me.

Strome isn't a small guy though, and I'd have trouble picking Crouse over Strome.

But if Strome and Hannafin are off the table (say Leafs are picking 5th), then adding Marner would be adding another diminutive top-6 guy...I wonder if they'd rather one of the bigger centers?

If you are at five, and Marner is left, would you rather take Marner, take Crouse, or would you trade down like the Islanders did the year they took Bailey?

 

[L K]

We are never going to agree on the general aspects of Domi, but he's absolutely not a guy I would target to acquire.  We already have Nylander, Leipsic and Brown as decent smaller prospects.  There is also a pretty reasonable chance that we may add Marner to the fold. 

Huh, you know, I never really thought about it in that sense but I wonder if that's what is driving some of the Crouse speculation.

I think I do understand that reasoning and if the Leafs genuinely think that Crouse is going to be that guy who clearly locks in as the 3rd player on the top line of Nylander + Kadri/Brown, then it does have some validity.

I think my stance remains that the Leafs are likely 2-3 drafts away from being around the playoffs  and because of that they should be drafting on talent and not need.  If they feel Crouse is close to equivalent to Marner (obviously based on different skill sets) then fine.  It's not an argument I agree on but such as it is. 

 

[Frank E]

We are never going to agree on the general aspects of Domi, but he's absolutely not a guy I would target to acquire.  We already have Nylander, Leipsic and Brown as decent smaller prospects.  There is also a pretty reasonable chance that we may add Marner to the fold. 

Huh, you know, I never really thought about it in that sense but I wonder if that's what is driving some of the Crouse speculation.

I really have been thinking about that...it was one of the reasons that Crouse was interesting to me.

Strome isn't a small guy though, and I'd have trouble picking Crouse over Strome.

But if Strome and Hannafin are off the table (say Leafs are picking 5th), then adding Marner would be adding another diminutive top-6 guy...I wonder if they'd rather one of the bigger centers?

If you are at five, and Marner is left, would you rather take Marner, take Crouse, or would you trade down like the Islanders did the year they took Bailey?

I think I still take Marner.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I can't see them skipping Marner for these reasons. First, he's a heck of a lot better than Leipsic and Brown. Second, while it's great to see what those guys are doing at the AHL level at their ages, they're still not locks to be impact top line players, or even impact top-6 players. The Leafs are at a stage where they desperately need high-level prospects. If they already had another Nylander in the system then maybe I could see them taking Crouse, but not at this point.

 

[Kin]

I think I do understand that reasoning and if the Leafs genuinely think that Crouse is going to be that guy who clearly locks in as the 3rd player on the top line of Nylander + Kadri/Brown, then it does have some validity.

I think my stance remains that the Leafs are likely 2-3 drafts away from being around the playoffs  and because of that they should be drafting on talent and not need.  If they feel Crouse is close to equivalent to Marner (obviously based on different skill sets) then fine.  It's not an argument I agree on but such as it is.

No, I'm with you. I think it'd be crazy to pass up Marner for that reason. As high as they might be on Nylander they can't just assume he's going to be an elite first line talent. The only reason I could see that rationale being justified is if you assume that both Marner and Nylander developing into terrific but smallish top line type forwards is a problem as opposed to a legitimate opportunity to, if need be, shop one of them and add a more complimentary player that way.

If they need a combination of size/skill, that seems like where you'd gamble with Nashville's pick.

 

[rdowdall]

We are never going to agree on the general aspects of Domi, but he's absolutely not a guy I would target to acquire.  We already have Nylander, Leipsic and Brown as decent smaller prospects.  There is also a pretty reasonable chance that we may add Marner to the fold. 

Huh, you know, I never really thought about it in that sense but I wonder if that's what is driving some of the Crouse speculation.

I really have been thinking about that...it was one of the reasons that Crouse was interesting to me.

Strome isn't a small guy though, and I'd have trouble picking Crouse over Strome.

But if Strome and Hannafin are off the table (say Leafs are picking 5th), then adding Marner would be adding another diminutive top-6 guy...I wonder if they'd rather one of the bigger centers?

If you are at five, and Marner is left, would you rather take Marner, take Crouse, or would you trade down like the Islanders did the year they took Bailey?

I think I still take Marner.

Yeah, I think that's probably the best course of action.  You would still have the late first from Nashville to add some size that hopefully has enough skill to play in your top 6.  JVR isn't a small guy either if they are thinking about keeping him.

 

[L K]

I think we can all agree that the worst thing that could happen today is the Leafs win the draft lottery and then we have a lot less to talk about leading into the draft.

 

[Kin]

I can't see them skipping Marner for these reasons. First, he's a heck of a lot better than Leipsic and Brown. Second, while it's great to see what those guys are doing at the AHL level at their ages, they're still not locks to be impact top line players, or even impact top-6 players. The Leafs are at a stage where they desperately need high-level prospects. If they already had another Nylander in the system then maybe I could see them taking Crouse, but not at this point.

Yeah, I didn't mean to suggest the Leafs would be smart to pass on Marner. Just that I could understand why that organizational perception might lead them to make Crouse the prospect they wanted to have the best handle on and, as a result, that fuels speculation that they're more interested in him than they are.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Yeah, I didn't mean to suggest the Leafs would be smart to pass on Marner. Just that I could understand why that organizational perception might lead them to make Crouse the prospect they wanted to have the best handle on and, as a result, that fuels speculation that they're more interested in him than they are.

Has there actually been speculation that they want Crouse? I just haven't heard anything like that before.

 

[Kin]

Yeah, I didn't mean to suggest the Leafs would be smart to pass on Marner. Just that I could understand why that organizational perception might lead them to make Crouse the prospect they wanted to have the best handle on and, as a result, that fuels speculation that they're more interested in him than they are.

Has there actually been speculation that they want Crouse? I just haven't heard anything like that before.

I can't speak to media speculation but there's certainly been some here and wasn't there the thing about Nonis taking in one of his games?

 

[Frank E]

Yeah, I didn't mean to suggest the Leafs would be smart to pass on Marner. Just that I could understand why that organizational perception might lead them to make Crouse the prospect they wanted to have the best handle on and, as a result, that fuels speculation that they're more interested in him than they are.

Has there actually been speculation that they want Crouse? I just haven't heard anything like that before.

I can't speak to media speculation but there's certainly been some here and wasn't there the thing about Nonis taking in one of his games?

Yeah, it was something about some Leaf brass watching a Kingston game.

 

[Guilt Trip]

Take the most talented and best player available regardless of size and position. The Oilers can draft position first which is why many speculate they'll take Hanifan. Marner appears to be way ahead of Crouse in the talent department.

Oh and pass on the Domi front.

 

[Frank E]

I think we can all agree that the worst thing that could happen today is the Leafs win the draft lottery and then we have a lot less to talk about leading into the draft.

Nice anti-jinx there.  Keep it coming.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I can't speak to media speculation but there's certainly been some here and wasn't there the thing about Nonis taking in one of his games?

Nonis: "Hey Brendan, you know that I still work here, right?"

Shanahan: "Oh right, Dave. Yeah, of course, we have a VERY important scouting assignment that I want to send you on."

Hunter/Dubas: *snickers*

 

[L K]

I can't speak to media speculation but there's certainly been some here and wasn't there the thing about Nonis taking in one of his games?

Nonis: "Hey Brendan, you know that I still work here, right?"

Shanahan: "Oh right, Dave. Yeah, of course, we have a VERY important scouting assignment that I want to send you on."

Hunter/Dubas: *snickers*

Nonis: Guys, I just got back from the trip.  There was this magical prospect I think we need to make our #1 priority.  He exhibits truculence and everything.

 

[rdowdall]

I can't speak to media speculation but there's certainly been some here and wasn't there the thing about Nonis taking in one of his games?

Nonis: "Hey Brendan, you know that I still work here, right?"

Shanahan: "Oh right, Dave. Yeah, of course, we have a VERY important scouting assignment that I want to send you on."

Hunter/Dubas: *snickers*

Nonis: Guys, I just got back from the trip.  There was this magical prospect I think we need to make our #1 priority.  He exhibits truculence and everything.

Shanahan:  Dave.....we need to talk.

 

[bustaheims]

Has there actually been speculation that they want Crouse? I just haven't heard anything like that before.

Not from anyone who I'd put any stock into. Healy said something about it, but, I mean, it's Healy.