Marlies Talk

[L K]

Ignoring that the stick rule seems to be one of the dumbest marketing ideas ever, how do you give Rosehill one of the three exemptions?  Veterans and everything, I think the impact Rosehill has with/without a stick in his hands is about the same.

But a very nice article on the back-story of a number of Marlies.

 

[cw]

Ignoring that the stick rule seems to be one of the dumbest marketing ideas ever, how do you give Rosehill one of the three exemptions?  Veterans and everything, I think the impact Rosehill has with/without a stick in his hands is about the same.

I had the same reaction except I thought a chopstick or a baseball bat for Rosehill.  Hopefully, it was a case of the vets not realizing how much it bothered Gardiner and they'll do something about it.

 

[cw]

I know very little about Oklahoma but looking at the regular season stats, it was striking how similar the two teams are. Very similar goals for and against, win% (fairly close), goalie save%, PP & PK%, distribution of goal scoring, etc.

About the only difference on paper that might give the Marlies an edge is the Marlies were able to upgrade their talent a little better down the stretch with Gardiner, Ashton (currently hurt), Ready, Frattin & Lashoff's return from a season long injury.

Regardless, it looks likely to be a long tight series.

With St. John's winning today, the top two teams in the standings for each conference move on to the conference finals (The WB Scranton Penguins seeded 4th had a slightly better win% than St. John's). So no big upsets so far to help the Marlies cause.

Hopefully, I can see some of these games.

 

[leafplasma]

I know very little about Oklahoma but looking at the regular season stats, it was striking how similar the two teams are. Very similar goals for and against, win% (fairly close), goalie save%, PP & PK%, distribution of goal scoring, etc.

About the only difference on paper that might give the Marlies an edge is the Marlies were able to upgrade their talent a little better down the stretch with Gardiner, Ashton (currently hurt), Ready, Frattin & Lashoff's return from a season long injury.

Regardless, it looks likely to be a long tight series.

With St. John's winning today, the top two teams in the standings for each conference move on to the conference finals (The WB Scranton Penguins seeded 4th had a slightly better win% than St. John's). So no big upsets so far to help the Marlies cause.

Hopefully, I can see some of these games.

Who is this?

 

[Britishbulldog]

A very good article by Damien Cox on the Toronto Marlies:

It?s about a team.

It?s about Derek King, who decided to uproot his wife, twins, 11-year-old son, three dogs, two lizards and a guinea pig and answer a friend?s call for help. It?s about Ben Scrivens, a bookworm goalie who once was considered to have such little promise that he paid to finance his own trade from one junior to team to another. It?s about Philippe Dupuis proving to himself that he?s not a failure.

The story of this year?s edition of the Toronto Marlies is about Mike Zigomanis? health concerns, Will Acton?s refusal to accept a life out of hockey and Jake Gardiner trying to play with a stick that isn?t his.

It?s about hard choices, melding together different hockey lives and the idea that the most important part of a person is often something you don?t know.

It?s about a boy named Dallas, hardened while being raised in ?hillbilly country? in the United States, who grew into a man haunted by the memory of a .22 rifle and the two dads who abandoned him. It?s about coach Eakins, who made the NHL the hard way as a player and is now the bench boss of a team eight wins away from a minor league championship.

That?s the sturdy frame upon which the Toronto Marlies rest.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/article/1177614--toronto-marlies-a-team-with-a-dream

Wow, what an article!

 

[Etiam Vultus]

Ignoring that the stick rule seems to be one of the dumbest marketing ideas ever, how do you give Rosehill one of the three exemptions?  Veterans and everything, I think the impact Rosehill has with/without a stick in his hands is about the same.

I had the same reaction except I thought a chopstick or a baseball bat for Rosehill.  Hopefully, it was a case of the vets not realizing how much it bothered Gardiner and they'll do something about it.

That was my first reaction, but then I realized that Gardiner is probably close to last in the pecking order if it goes by seniority.  If Rosehill gives us his exemption, do they pass over players like Kadri, Colborne and a whole bunch of others who have more experience that Gardiner?

 

[bustaheims]

Ignoring that the stick rule seems to be one of the dumbest marketing ideas ever, how do you give Rosehill one of the three exemptions?  Veterans and everything, I think the impact Rosehill has with/without a stick in his hands is about the same.

I suppose it depends on how the rule is structured. If it mandates that the exceptions have to be based on seniority, Gardiner would essentially be the last on the list.

 

[L K]

Ignoring that the stick rule seems to be one of the dumbest marketing ideas ever, how do you give Rosehill one of the three exemptions?  Veterans and everything, I think the impact Rosehill has with/without a stick in his hands is about the same.

I suppose it depends on how the rule is structured. If it mandates that the exceptions have to be based on seniority, Gardiner would essentially be the last on the list.

Counterargument that seniority could be by minutes played of professional hockey.  I think Gardiner beats Rosehill in that one .

I don't know what the official rule is, but it would seem odd to mandate that not only are you not allowed to use your own sticks, but that the AHL gets to tell you who your exemptions are too.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Ignoring that the stick rule seems to be one of the dumbest marketing ideas ever, how do you give Rosehill one of the three exemptions?  Veterans and everything, I think the impact Rosehill has with/without a stick in his hands is about the same.

I suppose it depends on how the rule is structured. If it mandates that the exceptions have to be based on seniority, Gardiner would essentially be the last on the list.

Counterargument that seniority could be by minutes played of professional hockey.  I think Gardiner beats Rosehill in that one .

I don't know what the official rule is, but it would seem odd to mandate that not only are you not allowed to use your own sticks, but that the AHL gets to tell you who your exemptions are too.

I didn't get the feeling that the seniority rule was something that the AHL mandates. Sounds more like an unwritten rule amongst AHLers to me.

 

[bustaheims]

Counterargument that seniority could be by minutes played of professional hockey.  I think Gardiner beats Rosehill in that one .

Like seniority ever works that way. (Also, considering how much AHL time Rosehill has . . .)

I don't know what the official rule is, but it would seem odd to mandate that not only are you not allowed to use your own sticks, but that the AHL gets to tell you who your exemptions are too.

It does seem odd, sure, but the whole rule is pretty odd, all things considered, so, who knows?

 

[hockeyfan1]

A very good article by Damien Cox on the Toronto Marlies:

It?s about a team.

It?s about Derek King, who decided to uproot his wife, twins, 11-year-old son, three dogs, two lizards and a guinea pig and answer a friend?s call for help. It?s about Ben Scrivens, a bookworm goalie who once was considered to have such little promise that he paid to finance his own trade from one junior to team to another. It?s about Philippe Dupuis proving to himself that he?s not a failure.

The story of this year?s edition of the Toronto Marlies is about Mike Zigomanis? health concerns, Will Acton?s refusal to accept a life out of hockey and Jake Gardiner trying to play with a stick that isn?t his.

It?s about hard choices, melding together different hockey lives and the idea that the most important part of a person is often something you don?t know.

It?s about a boy named Dallas, hardened while being raised in ?hillbilly country? in the United States, who grew into a man haunted by the memory of a .22 rifle and the two dads who abandoned him. It?s about coach Eakins, who made the NHL the hard way as a player and is now the bench boss of a team eight wins away from a minor league championship.

That?s the sturdy frame upon which the Toronto Marlies rest.

http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/article/1177614--toronto-marlies-a-team-with-a-dream

Inspiring story on the Marlies.  Certainly would like to see them win it all.  Never has a minor-league team in the Leafs system been this good.

WAY TO GO, MARLIES!

 

[Bonsixx]

Enjoyed this part:

Scrivens has a shot at being an NHLer next season because right now he?s tearing up the AHL. In the series against Abbotsford, he registered a spectacular .955 save percentage.

For much of this, he gives credit to embattled Leaf goalie coach Francois Allaire.

?His system isn?t just, sit there and be motionless and hope pucks hit you,? says Scrivens. ?People who say that are idiots. It?s like writing a book report on a book you?ve never read before and being forceful about your convictions. But again, you can have your opinion, and I can have the opinion that you?re an idiot.?

 

[Britishbulldog]

Inspiring story on the Marlies.  Certainly would like to see them win it all.  Never has a minor-league team in the Leafs system been this good.

WAY TO GO, MARLIES!

I actually read somewhere that a Toronto minor league team never won a championship before but I am not sure where I read it since I was there game 5 in 1982 and saw the New Brunswick Hawks defeat the Binghampton Whalers 4 games to 1 at the Moncton Coliseum.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Brunswick_Hawks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:New_Brunswick_Hawks_players

Serge Boisvert and Jack O'Callahan rented a place next door to me.  Serge was friendly but Jack was a bit of a jerk to me as a teen.

 

[Britishbulldog]

Enjoyed this part:

Scrivens has a shot at being an NHLer next season because right now he?s tearing up the AHL. In the series against Abbotsford, he registered a spectacular .955 save percentage.

For much of this, he gives credit to embattled Leaf goalie coach Francois Allaire.

?His system isn?t just, sit there and be motionless and hope pucks hit you,? says Scrivens. ?People who say that are idiots. It?s like writing a book report on a book you?ve never read before and being forceful about your convictions. But again, you can have your opinion, and I can have the opinion that you?re an idiot.?

I think that might have been my favorite part.  ;D

 

[cw]

Enjoyed this part:

Scrivens has a shot at being an NHLer next season because right now he?s tearing up the AHL. In the series against Abbotsford, he registered a spectacular .955 save percentage.

For much of this, he gives credit to embattled Leaf goalie coach Francois Allaire.

?His system isn?t just, sit there and be motionless and hope pucks hit you,? says Scrivens. ?People who say that are idiots. It?s like writing a book report on a book you?ve never read before and being forceful about your convictions. But again, you can have your opinion, and I can have the opinion that you?re an idiot.?

I think that might have been my favorite part.  ;D

And probably as bang on as anything written in any Leafs article this year.

 

[lamajama]

Cox and good journalism.

Coyotes and LA in the final 4

What alternate universe are we in?

Mind you....the Leafs are still sucking in this universe too  :-\

 

[L K]

Cox and good journalism.

Coyotes and LA in the final 4

What alternate universe are we in?

Mind you....the Leafs are still sucking in this universe too  :-\

Nah, Cox routinely comes up with a handful of really good pieces every year.  The problem is that so many of his other articles are filled with "I hate you so I'm going to disrespect you" language that his writing abilities get overlooked. 

 

[cw]

Cox and good journalism.

Coyotes and LA in the final 4

What alternate universe are we in?

Mind you....the Leafs are still sucking in this universe too  :-\

Nah, Cox routinely comes up with a handful of really good pieces every year.  The problem is that so many of his other articles are filled with "I hate you so I'm going to disrespect you" language that his writing abilities get overlooked.

He reminds me of a capable athlete that has plenty of raw talent  - definitely above average but only shows up with a good game once or twice a year while he carries on with a smug demeanor as if he's the MVP.

 

[4th Liner]

Cox and good journalism.

Coyotes and LA in the final 4

What alternate universe are we in?

Mind you....the Leafs are still sucking in this universe too  :-

Nah, Cox routinely comes up with a handful of really good pieces every year.  The problem is that so many of his other articles are filled with "I hate you so I'm going to disrespect you" language that his writing abilities get overlooked.

He reminds me of a capable athlete that has plenty of raw talent  - definitely above average but only shows up with a good game once or twice a year while he carries on with a smug demeanor as if he's the MVP.

So, he's the Kovalev of journalists, eh?

 

[bustaheims]

Nah, Cox routinely comes up with a handful of really good pieces every year.  The problem is that so many of his other articles are filled with "I hate you so I'm going to disrespect you" language that his writing abilities get overlooked.

Yeah. When he's not grinding his imaginary ax, he's a pretty good writer.