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Mayor Ford gives driver the er, ah.... finger!

TML fan said:
Ford needs to watch it for sure, but I can't stand people like this woman who roll up on their high horse when they have a chance to embarrass a public figure, but probably wouldn't say jack to you or me.

From what she said, she rolled down her window and gave the thumbs down or something, the car/van drove away, and she saw the RobFord license plate and that's when she thought it was Rob Ford.

FWIW.
 
TML fan said:
Ford needs to watch it for sure, but I can't stand people like this woman who roll up on their high horse when they have a chance to embarrass a public figure, but probably wouldn't say jack to you or me.

I don't agree. I have no problem with people calling out elected officials when it comes to violating the law - especially laws that have been implemented with the purpose of increase the safety of the public.
 
Busta Reims said:
TML fan said:
Ford needs to watch it for sure, but I can't stand people like this woman who roll up on their high horse when they have a chance to embarrass a public figure, but probably wouldn't say jack to you or me.

I don't agree. I have no problem with people calling out elected officials when it comes to violating the law - especially laws that have been implemented with the purpose of increase the safety of the public.

Yeah but it would be like calling him out for jay-walking. His vehicle also wasn't in motion and if it was she would be just as guilty of being unsafe as he was. I highly doubt she didn't know it was Ford.

Ford was wrong, no doubt. I just think that if she did it on principle like she claims, she wouldn't be trying to discredit him now in the media.
 
TML fan said:
Busta Reims said:
TML fan said:
Ford needs to watch it for sure, but I can't stand people like this woman who roll up on their high horse when they have a chance to embarrass a public figure, but probably wouldn't say jack to you or me.

I don't agree. I have no problem with people calling out elected officials when it comes to violating the law - especially laws that have been implemented with the purpose of increase the safety of the public.

Yeah but it would be like calling him out for jay-walking. His vehicle also wasn't in motion and if it was she would be just as guilty of being unsafe as he was. I highly doubt she didn't know it was Ford.

Ford was wrong, no doubt. I just think that if she did it on principle like she claims, she wouldn't be trying to discredit him now in the media.

I think it's fairly safe to say she is calling him out for giving her the finger instead of just either (a) getting off the phone, or (b) apologising.

He's an elected official in a very public role - he should be accountable if he does stuff like this.
 
Again, I get irritated by people who get all morally superior around elected officials for something that they would (IMO) otherwise ignore. I'm not excusing what Ford did because he is an elected official. I just think she got the response that the vast majority of the population would have given her, and that's why it irks me. I don't think she would have bothered if it were you or me.
 
TML fan said:
Again, I get irritated by people who get all morally superior around elected officials for something that they would (IMO) otherwise ignore. I'm not excusing what Ford did because he is an elected official. I just think she got the response that the vast majority of the population would have given her, and that's why it irks me. I don't think she would have bothered if it were you or me.


That's because many people hold our elected officials  accountable on a higher ground anyways.
 
TML fan said:
Again, I get irritated by people who get all morally superior around elected officials for something that they would (IMO) otherwise ignore. I'm not excusing what Ford did because he is an elected official. I just think she got the response that the vast majority of the population would have given her, and that's why it irks me. I don't think she would have bothered if it were you or me.

I highly doubt the vast majority of the population would flip off a person for telling them not to talk on their phone while on the road, whether stopped at a light or not.  Maybe you would, but I doubt most would.
 
Can someone explain how on one hand the Ford-executive cite the election as a mandate but then dismiss people who bring concerns to council meeting because of re silent majority?  I certainly understand that not everyone us going to show up to meeting to voice their concerns but I find it dismaying when the Major and Mamoliti just dismiss the people who come as unemployed as they font have "jobs".
 
BMan said:
I wonder how many other posters (who are riding their high horses) in this thread, can say they live in the city proper and are taxpayers to the city proper?

*raises hand*

I pay > $2k in property taxes to the City for the privilege of living in the air. I don't even have a piece of land that I can call my "own".
 
chestyleroux said:
BMan said:
I wonder how many other posters (who are riding their high horses) in this thread, can say they live in the city proper and are taxpayers to the city proper?

*raises hand*

I pay > $2k in property taxes to the City for the privilege of living in the air. I don't even have a piece of land that I can call my "own".

I live in Brampton, and our late 60's 1800 sq/ft sidesplit costs us almost $4000 a year in taxes at a value of about $350k I know people in the Moore Park area that pay just shy of $3k. Their place is the same size as ours, a wartime, that was assessed at over $500k.... Toronto doesnt seem that bad to me now.

ps... I love TO
 
L K said:
Can someone explain how on one hand the Ford-executive cite the election as a mandate but then dismiss people who bring concerns to council meeting because of re silent majority?  I certainly understand that not everyone us going to show up to meeting to voice their concerns but I find it dismaying when the Major and Mamoliti just dismiss the people who come as unemployed as they font have "jobs".

Unemployed elites.
 
Before amalgamation, we lived in the former city of North York, now amalgamated as part of the city of Toronto.  Everything was shining for "the city with a heart", as we had twice-weekly garbage pick-up, our city was kept 'pristine', the residents were proud of what was once called "civility", and our little mayor that could, his Worship Mel Lastman, was well liked and thought of fondly.

In the early days, when Toronto had Mayor David Crombie, another little mayor that could and did, the city had someone with a brain, and a council that actually worked quite well in accomplishing and setting out city agenda, with people such as Paul Godfrey alongside.  Of course, those days were those days, when each mayor took care of their own jurisdiction -- city of East York, Scarborough, city of York, city of Etobicoke, etc.,etc.

To think that amalgamation has benefitted Toronto now as a whole, with one mayor and a council making decisions at City Hall, with not much input anymore from the other jurisdictions, as it used to be before, when it seemed that with all the different mayors and councillors representing the pre-amalgamated cities, everything somehow flowed very well.  It comes to show you just how badly we fare today when decision-making, planning, vision, seem to have become devoid of any sense of proper sensibilites and priorities.

I love having lived in North York, and now Toronto,always my home, always will be.  Call me a proud Torontonian!    :)
 
GhostOfPotvin29 said:
TML fan said:
Again, I get irritated by people who get all morally superior around elected officials for something that they would (IMO) otherwise ignore. I'm not excusing what Ford did because he is an elected official. I just think she got the response that the vast majority of the population would have given her, and that's why it irks me. I don't think she would have bothered if it were you or me.

I highly doubt the vast majority of the population would flip off a person for telling them not to talk on their phone while on the road, whether stopped at a light or not.  Maybe you would, but I doubt most would.

As someone who has worked in high traffic areas for the past 8 years, I respectfully disagree with that. People generally do not like being told what to do.

In response to BMan's question, I live in the Toronto part of what was Metro.
 
BMan said:
chestyleroux said:
BMan said:
I wonder how many other posters (who are riding their high horses) in this thread, can say they live in the city proper and are taxpayers to the city proper?

*raises hand*

I pay > $2k in property taxes to the City for the privilege of living in the air. I don't even have a piece of land that I can call my "own".

Wow. 2k..That's actually not too bad. Maybe Ford should raise the taxes, but then he would be breaking his election promise. I dunno how he is going to rid the debt of $750+ million without breaking any promises. No wonder Miller didn't seek re-election.

2k is for a 740 sq ft condo though, not a house.
 
Damian said:
chestyleroux said:
BMan said:
I wonder how many other posters (who are riding their high horses) in this thread, can say they live in the city proper and are taxpayers to the city proper?

*raises hand*

I pay > $2k in property taxes to the City for the privilege of living in the air. I don't even have a piece of land that I can call my "own".

I live in Brampton, and our late 60's 1800 sq/ft sidesplit costs us almost $4000 a year in taxes at a value of about $350k I know people in the Moore Park area that pay just shy of $3k. Their place is the same size as ours, a wartime, that was assessed at over $500k.... Toronto doesnt seem that bad to me now.

ps... I love TO

I'm in the same boat property tax-wise in the 'burbs.  Toronto property taxes are really, really low relative to the surrounding cities. 

Weren't property taxes raised quite a bit in Toronto a few years ago and everyone almost went ballistic? 

Its too bad Ford promised no new taxes - I think Toronto needs someone as brash as him to have the stones to raise them up to be comparable with cities around them, and talks of cutting libraries and such wouldn't be happening at all. 
 
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