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I don't like seeing anyone lose their job for the most part but there's really no getting away from the fact that both TSN and Sportsnet have basically existed providing bland competency in their studio shows for ever. They could basically replace just about anyone with just about anyone else they employ and the ultimate difference is nil.

Even the guys who I generally like, and I think this is the problem whenever we talk about who would be good replacements or fits for new hires, tend to be way more interesting and enjoyable when they're not at the TSN or Sportsnet studio shows and they can reveal a little bit of personality or, gasp, some opinions that might ruffle feathers.
 
Nik the Trik said:
I don't like seeing anyone lose their job for the most part but there's really no getting away from the fact that both TSN and Sportsnet have basically existed providing bland competency in their studio shows for ever. They could basically replace just about anyone with just about anyone else they employ and the ultimate difference is nil.

Even the guys who I generally like, and I think this is the problem whenever we talk about who would be good replacements or fits for new hires, tend to be way more interesting and enjoyable when they're not at the TSN or Sportsnet studio shows and they can reveal a little bit of personality or, gasp, some opinions that might ruffle feathers.

I think this applies to Sportsnet a lot more than TSN. The TSN guys can often seem like they're legitimately having fun out there. And lot of of the time that's mostly because of Jeff O'Neill, who's a guy I don't agree with a lot but his presence can really lighten up the broadcast. Sportsnet's are definitely usually pretty monotonous/robotic and like you said that makes it tough for any commentator/analyst/host.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Nik the Trik said:
I don't like seeing anyone lose their job for the most part but there's really no getting away from the fact that both TSN and Sportsnet have basically existed providing bland competency in their studio shows for ever. They could basically replace just about anyone with just about anyone else they employ and the ultimate difference is nil.

Even the guys who I generally like, and I think this is the problem whenever we talk about who would be good replacements or fits for new hires, tend to be way more interesting and enjoyable when they're not at the TSN or Sportsnet studio shows and they can reveal a little bit of personality or, gasp, some opinions that might ruffle feathers.

I think this applies to Sportsnet a lot more than TSN. The TSN guys can often seem like they're legitimately having fun out there. And lot of of the time that's mostly because of Jeff O'Neill, who's a guy I don't agree with a lot but his presence can really lighten up the broadcast. Sportsnet's are definitely usually pretty monotonous/robotic and like you said that makes it tough for any commentator/analyst/host.

TSN has kinda actually tried the entertainment side of programming with guys like O'Neill, Noodles, and Carlo. They sprinkle them in with guys who have some knowledge and I find myself putting in TSN almost always over Sportsnet.  I did watch Hockey Central when it was Millard, Hyper,  and MacLean. Have not watched it since Millard left.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I think this applies to Sportsnet a lot more than TSN. The TSN guys can often seem like they're legitimately having fun out there. And lot of of the time that's mostly because of Jeff O'Neill, who's a guy I don't agree with a lot but his presence can really lighten up the broadcast. Sportsnet's are definitely usually pretty monotonous/robotic and like you said that makes it tough for any commentator/analyst/host.

I don't think it's a tone thing for me. I think you can have good studio shows that are relatively serious/professional provided you have smart, engaging people who are allowed to throw challenging opinions out there and, while trying to to be respectful of the fact that everyone has their own tastes, my problem with Sportsnet definitely isn't that they haven't imported enough talk radio dude-bros making fart noises.

Friedman, to me, is a perfect example. Any time he substituted as a host on PTS and was talking about other sports he was engaging and funny. Then, he'd get on HNIC and he's so laser focused on his main job of breaking trades 20 seconds before everyone else and thinking that fans are more interested in second hand whispers from around the league than actually talking about the league.
 
Frycer14 said:
Personally, I like Burke, and I hope they expand his airtime. I find him and elliotte freidman entertaining.

If it's Burke vs Kypreos then Burke's entertainment advantage carries the day for me. The problem with Burke is that his authoritative sounding dogmatism was exposed as being not so authoritative during his tenure here. That makes me question pretty much anything he has to say.
 
Hockey Central at Noon with Doug MacLean and Nick Kypreos was one I'd always put on if I was home. I enjoyed their takes and banter. It was rough for Kipper at the HNIC desk, he'd fumble over his words a lot. He was best in the hour-long hockey show format. Interested to see who eventually takes over PTS.
 
I do not think as many people will care, but it is also confirmed that John Shannon is out. I like him with Bobcat.

That Rogers deal with the NHL has not panned out the way they expected. They are only 5 years into the mammoth 12 year deal and they are not seeing the revenues coming in to offset the $5 billion deal they made. I have heard that some deep playoff runs by any of the Canadian teams would have helped significantly - and from a purely money standpoint Rogers would likely want to see Toronto or Montreal go deep and draw large TV audiences.
 
Frycer14 said:
Personally, I like Burke, and I hope they expand his airtime. I find him and elliotte freidman entertaining.

I can't stand Burke because he comes off like he honestly knows everything but fails to acknowledge that his career was a shit show for the last 12 years. It's hard to put faith in someone's opinions who's so brash but so incompetent.
 
Some of the best discussions are generated by voices that are astoundingly wrong declaring they are absolutely right.
 
Bender said:
Frycer14 said:
Personally, I like Burke, and I hope they expand his airtime. I find him and elliotte freidman entertaining.

I can't stand Burke because he comes off like he honestly knows everything but fails to acknowledge that his career was a shit show for the last 12 years. It's hard to put faith in someone's opinions who's so brash but so incompetent.

I'm not so sure that Brian Burke's executive career should be described as a shit-show, even the past 12 years. 
 
Bender said:
Frycer14 said:
Personally, I like Burke, and I hope they expand his airtime. I find him and elliotte freidman entertaining.

I can't stand Burke because he comes off like he honestly knows everything but fails to acknowledge that his career was a shit show for the last 12 years. It's hard to put faith in someone's opinions who's so brash but so incompetent.

I can understand why people might feel that way. I guess I like how many perspectives he has on the sport. Player agent, exec vp of the league, GM, dept of player safety, etc... I don't think anyone else is paralleled in seeing pro hockey from so many different angles, and I've enjoyed hearing his perspectives, right or wrong in hindsight.
 
I like John Shannon too, nice counterweight to Bobcat. Burkie's good TV, opinionated and intelligent. I like his little stories. But I've lost a lot of respect for his semi-authoritative takes. I think if he was in charge again somewhere he'd have them locked into the NHL mushy-middle in no time.
 
https://twitter.com/JShannonhl/status/1167858854824165377
That's a helluva good hire.

https://twitter.com/HennyTweets/status/1167793727504637952
 
Frank E said:
Bender said:
Frycer14 said:
Personally, I like Burke, and I hope they expand his airtime. I find him and elliotte freidman entertaining.

I can't stand Burke because he comes off like he honestly knows everything but fails to acknowledge that his career was a shit show for the last 12 years. It's hard to put faith in someone's opinions who's so brash but so incompetent.

I'm not so sure that Brian Burke's executive career should be described as a shit-show, even the past 12 years.
Since the Leafs? If not a shit show then an abject failure in Toronto and a who cares in Calgary.
 
Some news from down south:

https://twitter.com/RickCarpiniello/status/1169337914322497538
https://twitter.com/RickCarpiniello/status/1169340480796200967
 
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1173615308382363650
https://twitter.com/ShawnMcKenzieSN/status/1173676433757081601
https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/1173684594945773568

Edit:
https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1173687813046439939
Lol
 
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