Minor Ex-Leaf News

[bustaheims]

What's the point of keeping the nominally better player that the coach you're committed to will not play over said coach's second-favourite worker bee who has situational application, particularly defensively? If it was still a Martin > Leivo situation like last year, I'd be more contentious about it. Brown has better AHL numbers and is younger than Leivo so it's not unjustifiable.

I don't think it's a big deal, either, as neither player moves the needle significantly more than the other, but, Babcock is still the primary reason Leivo was moved over Brown. Keeping Leivo over Brown would have been preferable for cap reasons, but, other than that? Meh.

 

[herman]

What's the point of keeping the nominally better player that the coach you're committed to will not play over said coach's second-favourite worker bee who has situational application, particularly defensively? If it was still a Martin > Leivo situation like last year, I'd be more contentious about it. Brown has better AHL numbers and is younger than Leivo so it's not unjustifiable.

I don't think it's a big deal, either, as neither player moves the needle significantly more than the other, but, Babcock is still the primary reason Leivo was moved over Brown. Keeping Leivo over Brown would have been preferable for cap reasons, but, other than that? Meh.

Now Trevor Moore is who you replace Brown/Lindholm with to get the cap savings and better play driving without costing on defense.

 

[dappleganger]

So why did we keep Connor Brown over him again?

7 letters. Starts with a B. Ends with a K.

Bozak is only 5 letters.

 

[caver]

What's the point of keeping the nominally better player that the coach you're committed to will not play over said coach's second-favourite worker bee who has situational application, particularly defensively? If it was still a Martin > Leivo situation like last year, I'd be more contentious about it. Brown has better AHL numbers and is younger than Leivo so it's not unjustifiable.

I don't think it's a big deal, either, as neither player moves the needle significantly more than the other, but, Babcock is still the primary reason Leivo was moved over Brown. Keeping Leivo over Brown would have been preferable for cap reasons, but, other than that? Meh.

Now Trevor Moore is who you replace Brown/Lindholm with to get the cap savings and better play driving without costing on defense.

We may see Moore here soon...what is the date that Leafs call up for a playoff run?

 

[herman]

We may see Moore here soon...what is the date that Leafs call up for a playoff run?

Post-trade deadline is when the roster can expand.

https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/and-now-you-know/2018/1/30/16944594/2018-nhl-trade-deadline-how-does-it-all-work-toronto-maple-leafs

 

[OldTimeHockey]

By "shoddy" do you mean "substantially less impressive than wingers on the current Leafs roster who make more than twice as much"? Because that's the thing that stands out to me when I look at the numbers, not that he's the Kasperi Kapanen that got away.

Like I said, they look shoddy in the sense that prior to last night he was scoring at a 29-point pace in Vancouver while playing alongside 2 elite, PPG players. Connor Brown, who I'm not exactly quick to defend, is scoring at a 29-point pace this season and his most frequent linemate has been Par Lindholm.

If last night's performance from Leivo is more of a sign of things to come and he steps up his scoring, then maybe I'll change my tune here.

Exactly. Leivo is playing on a terrible team and is being afforded opportunities he wouldn't get here. Babcock aside, I don't see where Leivo slot into this line up and makes the team better...or even equal.

 

[mr grieves]

Exactly. Leivo is playing on a terrible team and is being afforded opportunities he wouldn't get here. Babcock aside, I don't see where Leivo slot into this line up and makes the team better...or even equal.

The easy answer is Marleau, who could be slotted in behind Johnsson, Hyman, and Trevor Moore.

I think the argument would be that his underlying stats show he's a good middle-six talent when it comes to generating scoring chances and keeping the puck in the fun zone. That was the case when he was here and not being "afforded opportunities" to produce that'd come on a terrible team. He wouldn't displace any of the wingers in the top 9 (Johnsson, Hyman, Marleau / Marner, Nylander, Kapanen), but, in the event of an injury, he can be more useful up there than Brown or Lindholm.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

https://twitter.com/lakingsinsider/status/1104427054781554688

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/lakingsinsider/status/1104427054781554688

https://twitter.com/helenenothelen/status/1104629553580859392
https://streamable.com/tk1bv

Yay Carl!

 

[Highlander]

And we gave him up for Muzzin..why oh Lord, why :'(

 

[Bullfrog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHnjzkaDSsY

 

[Zee]

And we gave him up for Muzzin..why oh Lord, why :'(

We can't keep everyone man. Gotta give to get and Muzzy will still be around next season

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/lakings/status/1104936803490922496

 

[CarltonTheBear]

Justin Holl did it first.

 

[herman]

Sean Durzi is now ELC'd with the Kings, kicking in next season.

 

[Highlander]

Thought Muzzin started great, tailed off but I really like his game now, very steady.  The trade for now makes a lot of sense. I do wish Durzi and Grundstrom all the best.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/carlocolaiacovo/status/1114891916267655168

 

[Guilt Trip]

So young and so sad. Positive vibes for Leo and the Cola fam.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/kevin_mcgran/status/1123245096298852352

Remember Soshnikov? Such a great start to his Leafs career, really looked like he was an integral part to our 4th line back then. Too bad he couldn't do moore. A lot of us really expected him to trev his engine up and potentially become a top-6 player.

 

[herman]

https://twitter.com/kevin_mcgran/status/1123245096298852352

Remember Soshnikov? Such a great start to his Leafs career, really looked like he was an integral part to our 4th line back then. Too bad he couldn't do moore. A lot of us really expected him to trev his engine up and potentially become a top-6 player.

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