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Mitch Marner - 2015 4th overall

herman said:
Nik the Trik said:
RedLeaf said:
Deebo said:
4 more points with 2 minutes left in the 2nd period in  game 1 against Erie tonight.

I wonder if the Leafs would consider trading the 1st pick (If they won it) to Phoenix for Dvorak and their pick, and then try and get Tkachuk. If the Leafs could somehow reunite this top London Knight's line, it might be worth more than getting Matthews. They have a combined 76 points in their first 11 playoff games. That is some out-of-this-world chemistry there.

Leaving aside just the fact that would be a bananas terrible return on the 1st overall pick I think it's pretty bizarre to attribute the success they're having to "chemistry". Dvorak is a second round pick playing in his second post-draft year of junior. Marner was a 4th overall pick who's playing in a post draft year of junior. Tkachuk is probably going to be a top 5 pick. That's an incredible collection of individual talent and maturity to be on a junior hockey team, let alone a single line. On the back-end they've got Juolevi who's also probably a top 10 pick. They're scoring a bunch of points because they're really good, not because they're best buddies 4 lyfe.

I'm not saying chemistry isn't a thing but we see every Olympics that if you put talented hockey players together they figure out a way to play with each other pretty quickly regardless of whether or not they've spent a single minute playing with each other before. Talent wins out. That's what's going on in London, that's why the Leafs will take Matthews with the #1 pick if they have the chance.

I am envisioning the Matthews/Marner chemistry right now.

Wake up!  Stop daydreaming!  Well, at least wait to continue dreaming until we actually win the lottery.  :-\

I'm not so confident that we'll win it!  I'd put money on Phoenix winning it!  ;)
 
Al14 said:
herman said:
Nik the Trik said:
RedLeaf said:
Deebo said:
4 more points with 2 minutes left in the 2nd period in  game 1 against Erie tonight.

I wonder if the Leafs would consider trading the 1st pick (If they won it) to Phoenix for Dvorak and their pick, and then try and get Tkachuk. If the Leafs could somehow reunite this top London Knight's line, it might be worth more than getting Matthews. They have a combined 76 points in their first 11 playoff games. That is some out-of-this-world chemistry there.

Leaving aside just the fact that would be a bananas terrible return on the 1st overall pick I think it's pretty bizarre to attribute the success they're having to "chemistry". Dvorak is a second round pick playing in his second post-draft year of junior. Marner was a 4th overall pick who's playing in a post draft year of junior. Tkachuk is probably going to be a top 5 pick. That's an incredible collection of individual talent and maturity to be on a junior hockey team, let alone a single line. On the back-end they've got Juolevi who's also probably a top 10 pick. They're scoring a bunch of points because they're really good, not because they're best buddies 4 lyfe.

I'm not saying chemistry isn't a thing but we see every Olympics that if you put talented hockey players together they figure out a way to play with each other pretty quickly regardless of whether or not they've spent a single minute playing with each other before. Talent wins out. That's what's going on in London, that's why the Leafs will take Matthews with the #1 pick if they have the chance.

I am envisioning the Matthews/Marner chemistry right now.

Wake up!  Stop daydreaming!  Well, at least wait to continue dreaming until we actually win the lottery.  :-\

I'm not so confident that we'll win it!  I'd put money on Phoenix winning it!  ;)

One more week to go!  At least then all the speculation will be over with (at least with respect to draft order).  The new speculation will be who the Leafs choose in their draft position (provided they're not #1)
 
I gave a friend 100-1 odds Leafs won't get #1 pick. We each threw in a loonie.

I'm gonna be peed off when he hands me his loonie....
 
Frank E said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
LuncheonMeat said:
Heroic Shrimp said:
LuncheonMeat said:
Marner with a goal less than 1 minute into game 2. Knights with a 3-0 lead late in the first.

"Only" a goal and an assist in a 6-1 win.  Dude is slipping.

Trade him before he bottoms out!!

Probably too late.

Man, the speed at which these prospects go from bank to bust is really getting out of hand.

Truly, it can happen in a matter of days.
 
10 points in 3 games against Erie.  He probably needs another year or two in the minors.
 
This is basically a Marner highlight reel: http://new.ontariohockeyleague.com/video/apr-2616-gm3-erie-1-london-5

Some of the nicest didn't even end up as goals.
 
Potvin29 said:
This is basically a Marner highlight reel: http://new.ontariohockeyleague.com/video/apr-2616-gm3-erie-1-london-5

Some of the nicest didn't even end up as goals.

Man, this kid has some sick moves. That was Strome he undressed near the end of the first. He didn't score but the refs should have given him the goal anyway.
 
He's seriously like a ringer now, it's hilarious to watch, it's to the point where it is almost detrimental to his development. If you're not being challenged, do you improve as quickly?
 
LuncheonMeat said:
Potvin29 said:
This is basically a Marner highlight reel: http://new.ontariohockeyleague.com/video/apr-2616-gm3-erie-1-london-5

Some of the nicest didn't even end up as goals.

Man, this kid has some sick moves. That was Strome he undressed near the end of the first. He didn't score but the refs should have given him the goal anyway.

If that went in, that would've been instant Seppuku for Strome and the goalie (Williams?).
 
Patrick said:
He's seriously like a ringer now, it's hilarious to watch, it's to the point where it is almost detrimental to his development. If you're not being challenged, do you improve as quickly?

I don't think you do. When I was in martial arts, the number one rule we tried to practice was to compete against people who were better than you. It was easily the fastest way to get better.
 

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