Even for just on-ice stuff this past seasons Tyler Johnson was always a better comparison for Marner anyway since Kane's pretty bad defensively. The Kane comparisons were really just because both players played for the Knights.
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CarltonTheBear said:Even for just on-ice stuff this past seasons Tyler Johnson was always a better comparison for Marner anyway since Kane's pretty bad defensively. The Kane comparisons were really just because both players played for the Knights.
Potvin29 said:CarltonTheBear said:Even for just on-ice stuff this past seasons Tyler Johnson was always a better comparison for Marner anyway since Kane's pretty bad defensively. The Kane comparisons were really just because both players played for the Knights.
I'm making the Giroux comparison happen.
herman said:Potvin29 said:CarltonTheBear said:Even for just on-ice stuff this past seasons Tyler Johnson was always a better comparison for Marner anyway since Kane's pretty bad defensively. The Kane comparisons were really just because both players played for the Knights.
I'm making the Giroux comparison happen.
Bergeron with more speed and scoring?
CarltonTheBear said:herman said:Potvin29 said:CarltonTheBear said:Even for just on-ice stuff this past seasons Tyler Johnson was always a better comparison for Marner anyway since Kane's pretty bad defensively. The Kane comparisons were really just because both players played for the Knights.
I'm making the Giroux comparison happen.
Bergeron with more speed and scoring?
He's basically Crosby without the whining.
CarltonTheBear said:Even for just on-ice stuff this past seasons Tyler Johnson was always a better comparison for Marner anyway since Kane's pretty bad defensively. The Kane comparisons were really just because both players played for the Knights.
Bender said:I think Marner should be better than Johnson IMO.
Heroic Shrimp said:A 2-minute video from a private Marner practice session:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVE7igAA3VA[/youtube]
Mitch Marner is so dangerous right now even the boundaries of a standard clich? can?t contain him.
Marner, named player of the game during Team OHL?s 2-1 win over Team Russia on Monday night in Windsor, has long been described as a player who makes those around him better. But that old hockeyism wasn?t enough for Rocky Thompson.
?I think I was better, on the bench,? said the Team OHL coach with a laugh after the game.
?At this stage Marner reminds me of [Nazem] Kadri in the year after his draft,? said the veteran Ontario-based scout who is the owner of a Stanley Cup ring.
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The scout explained the comparison in depth. "What people forget was that Kadri was really good [after his draft] in London," he said. "He wasn't physically ready for the NHL and Marner isn't either?he's even farther away. In terms of puck skills, though, Kadri [was] and Marner [is] just better than everyone they're playing with and against."
By numbers, you could make a case that Marner is out in front of Kadri at the same age but the scout suggested that goals and points aren't the only measure in play. "[London coach Dale] Hunter kept a pretty tight grip on Kadri and he had to fall into line," he said. "Marner, though, he pretty much does what he wants. He knows he's there to play his 30 or 35 minutes. He's going to stay out there on the ice for a whole two-minute power play and then another minute on top of that.
"I think you can draw a straight line between Marner and [former Knight] Patrick Kane," an NHL scouting director said. "The question a lot of people ask is whether Marner?s physically ready to play at the next level. At this point, you should just stop asking the question.
"Guys have tried to hit Marner and they can?t find him. It was the same thing with Kane at the same stage... they just see the ice so well and have such great instincts. And the fact is, one thing that makes them hard to hit is that you?re going to get beat bad if you try to run them."
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When asked about the point made by Scout 1 concerning Marner?s inclination to take the two-minute shifts and freelance, Scout 2 was in general agreement, but said that Marner wasn?t necessarily to blame for it. Or at least entirely so.
"You have to put some of that on Dale [Hunter]," Scout 2 said. "That?s how he is with his top players. He was that way with Kane and that way with Kadri. With Kane, I remember there?d be times that he would come over to the bench, thinking Dale was going to change lines but [Hunter] would just point and send him back out there.
"Really that?s Dale just coaching to give his team the best chance to win. It didn?t hurt Kane, that?s for sure. He had to change [when he went to Chicago] but it?s not like playing two-minute shifts in London hurt his development. Yeah, you can talk about accountability and the 200-foot game and how it might be lacking for them in junior, but so long as they?re all in and with the program, they?re going to figure it out [when they get to the NHL]."
He?s not the fastest player on the ice, doesn?t have the hardest shot either. He isn?t the most physical player and doesn?t ?wow? you with any one particular skill. But nobody thinks the game like Marner does. He?s smart, he?s aware, he?s slippery and thinks faster than anybody on the ice. Marner just knows where to go.
I talked to one hockey analyst who?s seen him extensively who told me: ?In just about every situation he doesn?t make the right play, he makes the even better play. He does things out there that nobody else would even consider doing. And it works.?
You see elements of other players in Marner but in a lot of ways he?s most like Paul Kariya; a cerebral player who created glorious plays in the middle of chaos while the whole crowd was expecting him to get crushed by bigger and faster opponents.
herman said:Jeff Marek on Marner: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/juniors/next-up-mitch-marner-patrik-laine-jesse-puljujarvi-lethbridge-hurricanes-prince-george-cougars-world-junior-championship/
He?s not the fastest player on the ice, doesn?t have the hardest shot either. He isn?t the most physical player and doesn?t ?wow? you with any one particular skill. But nobody thinks the game like Marner does. He?s smart, he?s aware, he?s slippery and thinks faster than anybody on the ice. Marner just knows where to go.
I talked to one hockey analyst who?s seen him extensively who told me: ?In just about every situation he doesn?t make the right play, he makes the even better play. He does things out there that nobody else would even consider doing. And it works.?
You see elements of other players in Marner but in a lot of ways he?s most like Paul Kariya; a cerebral player who created glorious plays in the middle of chaos while the whole crowd was expecting him to get crushed by bigger and faster opponents.
Heroic Shrimp said:It's awesome seeing him in that video at age 4 roofing it on a goalie.
Heroic Shrimp said:Business as usual for Marner tonight: 1G 1A in his return to London.