Guilt Trip
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Got ya, I think lol. Thx Deebo and Busta too.
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Guilt Trip said:Got ya, I think lol. Thx Deebo and Busta too.
With the amount of learning we are all doing we could all end up as potential GM's one day soon. NOTDeebo said:Guilt Trip said:So the Pro-Rated cap hit is for paper use only and doesn't count against the Cap?Deebo said:Guilt Trip said:Willy's cap hit was 10.2 mill last year so wouldn't that be an issue if Marner signed after the season began? Wouldn't his cap hit be higher in year 1 then 10 mill assuming the contract is 80 mill over 8 years?Bullfrog said:So, he gets his $6.9 per year, which means he got a much higher per game amount in the first year. In other words, he got his full $6.9M but only had to play a portion of the year.
The 10.2M was pro-rated to 126/186 days of the season so his cap hit 6.96M last year.
https://www.capfriendly.com/teams/mapleleafs/cap-tracker
The 10.2M/~186 days gives you the daily cap hit.
The daily cap hit X the number of days the player is on the roster is the amount the player counts for on the cap.
It's not that it doesn't count, the full year cap hit is just grossed up to the point where the daily cap hit X by the days remaining in the season make the cap hit equal in all years of the contract.
Guilt Trip said:So the Pro-Rated cap hit is for paper use only and doesn't count against the Cap?
Guilt Trip said:Willy's cap hit was 10.2 mill last year so wouldn't that be an issue if Marner signed after the season began? Wouldn't his cap hit be higher in year 1 then 10 mill assuming the contract is 80 mill over 8 years?Bullfrog said:So, he gets his $6.9 per year, which means he got a much higher per game amount in the first year. In other words, he got his full $6.9M but only had to play a portion of the year.
Bullfrog said:Guilt Trip said:Willy's cap hit was 10.2 mill last year so wouldn't that be an issue if Marner signed after the season began? Wouldn't his cap hit be higher in year 1 then 10 mill assuming the contract is 80 mill over 8 years?Bullfrog said:So, he gets his $6.9 per year, which means he got a much higher per game amount in the first year. In other words, he got his full $6.9M but only had to play a portion of the year.
To answer your question, yes, it would be an issue depending on how long it takes. The main reason being that they'd have to pay somebody to play in his place while he wasn't on the team. This would be included in the team's cap number along with Marner's contract.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Skinner 8x9 (avg). Marner's getting more than 10 methinks.
Nik the Trik said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Skinner 8x9 (avg). Marner's getting more than 10 methinks.
I mean, at the very least, you're not getting a single UFA year for anything under 10.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Skinner 8x9 (avg). Marner's getting more than 10 methinks.
bustaheims said:Skinner?s contract is gonna look like a real overpay when Skinner goes back to being a ~25 goal, ~55 point winger next season, and when Panarin and other prime UFAs don?t sign for high amounts more. It?s going to be an outlier.
CarltonTheBear said:bustaheims said:Skinner?s contract is gonna look like a real overpay when Skinner goes back to being a ~25 goal, ~55 point winger next season, and when Panarin and other prime UFAs don?t sign for high amounts more. It?s going to be an outlier.
I think it's high, but it should be noted this is the 2nd time in 3 years that Skinner got 40 or close (37 goals in 16/17) so I don't think this season was a complete anomaly. He is a very good goal scorer and scoring goals is the hardest thing to do. Also going from playing with centres like Derek Ryan, Victor Rask, and a pre-breakout Elias Lindholm to Jack Eichel is a pretty massive improvement for him. So I wouldn't be surprised to see him stay close to 35+ goals for the next few seasons.
The AAV is high and that coupled with max term means the 2nd half of this deal could be a pretty big problem, but this shouldn't handcuff them too much for the first few years.
Bullfrog said:I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that's a bad contract.
bustaheims said:He was riding an unsustainable shooting percentage in the first half, and it came crashing down after the all star break. 30 goals in his first 48, 10 in the last 34. He hasn?t shown an ability to maintain that over multiple consecutive years. He?ll have a couple years where the contract seems worth it, but, it?ll mostly be him being overpaid by around $1.5M-$2M per.
Bullfrog said:I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks that's a bad contract.