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Nick Robertson signed to 3 yr ELC

Added interest on the Petes for those of us from the UK as they've got only the third ever UK based drafted player (Liam Kirk) so nice to have interest on a few levels and another team to keep an eye on
 
Excellent book excerpt in the Athletic this AM about Nick Robertson's birth and first two months in neo natal intensive care. Wow, what a story, so great to see this young man and the way he plays.
 
https://twitter.com/FutureOfTheSix/status/1182319842508103687
https://twitter.com/FutureOfTheSix/status/1182340208991313923

Thinking of renaming this thread to Peterbro Bros
 
Zee said:
SDA is in a slump, he had 14 points in 5 games.  :'(

I'm still more concerned about his 2 goals and only 11 shots in 7 games than his overall point totals.  It really doesn't strike me as the kind of OHL production that will project to the NHL.
 
Semyon Der-Arguchintsev added two more assists and Robertson added an empty netter. He leads the OHL in goals with 11.
 
https://twitter.com/petesohlhockey/status/1183177567194570753

Guess what?










Chicken butt

This one got credited to Zach Gallant for the tip in front after.
 
10 games, 12 goals, 19 points

What kind of gpg or ppg totals are predictive of nhl success in the year after the draft?  Do lots of first-rounders put up these kinds of numbers?

Of course, it is early.
 
princedpw said:
10 games, 12 goals, 19 points

What kind of gpg or ppg totals are predictive of nhl success in the year after the draft?  Do lots of first-rounders put up these kinds of numbers?

Of course, it is early.

There's a lot of junior hockey players that put up huge numbers in junior but it doesn't always translate to NHL success.  Not sure what the correlation is, but I suppose if you're able to eclipse 100 points in a junior season you're probably on track to be an NHL player, just don't know what kind of NHL player.
 
Zee said:
princedpw said:
10 games, 12 goals, 19 points

What kind of gpg or ppg totals are predictive of nhl success in the year after the draft?  Do lots of first-rounders put up these kinds of numbers?

Of course, it is early.

There's a lot of junior hockey players that put up huge numbers in junior but it doesn't always translate to NHL success.  Not sure what the correlation is, but I suppose if you're able to eclipse 100 points in a junior season you're probably on track to be an NHL player, just don't know what kind of NHL player.

Probably doesn't hurt that he's super young from the D+1 class. I mean he was just days away from being draft eligible in 2020. 

Just looking at other players he's the youngest on the goal leader board apart from Quinton Byfield who's looking to be the #1 pick in 2020. Arthur Kaliyev is also killing it from last year's draft but he had an insane point total last year already. Nick's brother Jason also had great point totals last year and is having a good start in the A. Hopefully there's some pedigree there. It's encouraging for sure, and it sounds to me like Nick isn't just a goal scorer but is a heart and soul type player. I'm hoping that all that put together translates to him being an NHLer.
 
Bender said:
Zee said:
princedpw said:
10 games, 12 goals, 19 points

What kind of gpg or ppg totals are predictive of nhl success in the year after the draft?  Do lots of first-rounders put up these kinds of numbers?

Of course, it is early.

There's a lot of junior hockey players that put up huge numbers in junior but it doesn't always translate to NHL success.  Not sure what the correlation is, but I suppose if you're able to eclipse 100 points in a junior season you're probably on track to be an NHL player, just don't know what kind of NHL player.

Probably doesn't hurt that he's super young from the D+1 class. I mean he was just days away from being draft eligible in 2020. 

Just looking at other players he's the youngest on the goal leader board apart from Quinton Byfield who's looking to be the #1 pick in 2020. Arthur Kaliyev is also killing it from last year's draft but he had an insane point total last year already. Nick's brother Jason also had great point totals last year and is having a good start in the A. Hopefully there's some pedigree there. It's encouraging for sure, and it sounds to me like Nick isn't just a goal scorer but is a heart and soul type player. I'm hoping that all that put together translates to him being an NHLer.

For sure it's encouraging.  If he was plodding along as a 4th liner with 2 points we wouldn't even be talking about him.
 
He's a smaller Trevor Moore*, but with better skating at a younger age and a wicked pair of shots in the toolbox (snap n' slap). The motor will translate, the nose for the net will translate (he just has to build some bulk over the next couple of years), the play away from the puck needs a bit of refinement still.

We'll know more at a higher level. This is looking ahead quite a bit, but I expect both Robertson and Der Arguchintsev to get ATOs with the Growlers at the end of their junior season (2nd time for SDA).

* Trevor Moore was an undrafted invite to the Leafs' 2016 dev camp (same time as Matthews'). He did not have the wheels he does today but he had a quickness to his game in attacking seams and bodying through contact unabated.
 
herman said:
He's a smaller Trevor Moore*, but with better skating at a younger age and a wicked pair of shots in the toolbox (snap n' slap). The motor will translate, the nose for the net will translate (he just has to build some bulk over the next couple of years), the play away from the puck needs a bit of refinement still.

We'll know more at a higher level. This is looking ahead quite a bit, but I expect both Robertson and Der Arguchintsev to get ATOs with the Growlers at the end of their junior season (2nd time for SDA).

* Trevor Moore was an undrafted invite to the Leafs' 2016 dev camp (same time as Matthews'). He did not have the wheels he does today but he had a quickness to his game in attacking seams and bodying through contact unabated.

So, realistically, what we are hoping for is a 3rd liner if everything pans out?
 
princedpw said:
herman said:
He's a smaller Trevor Moore*, but with better skating at a younger age and a wicked pair of shots in the toolbox (snap n' slap). The motor will translate, the nose for the net will translate (he just has to build some bulk over the next couple of years), the play away from the puck needs a bit of refinement still.

We'll know more at a higher level. This is looking ahead quite a bit, but I expect both Robertson and Der Arguchintsev to get ATOs with the Growlers at the end of their junior season (2nd time for SDA).

* Trevor Moore was an undrafted invite to the Leafs' 2016 dev camp (same time as Matthews'). He did not have the wheels he does today but he had a quickness to his game in attacking seams and bodying through contact unabated.

So, realistically, what we are hoping for is a 3rd liner if everything pans out?

Robertson has better offensive skills so he could play up in the lineup if those pan out in the NHL.
 
Middle-six offensive winger that could be plugged into any line as both the digger and finisher.

He's a different flavour of the type of player Dubas has clearly favoured on the wings since he's had personnel control: plug and play players because they are fast/agile, smart as a base, and some standout strength to build off of.

Because of his skating, playstyle, and pitbull mentality regarding puck retrieval, he's an NHLer at minimum. He trains with Gary Roberts if you're wondering whether this tiny person can eventually put on the muscle to play this way. His shooting ability can push him top 6 depending on team's depth on LW at the time.

If you're looking at his draft year numbers and wondering why it's a bit underwhelming: Peterborough was garbage as a team and Robertson started the year injured (wrist) and mostly played the season in spite of it (for the draft).
 
herman said:
Middle-six offensive winger that could be plugged into any line as both the digger and finisher.

He's a different flavour of the type of player Dubas has clearly favoured on the wings since he's had personnel control: plug and play players because they are fast/agile, smart as a base, and some standout strength to build off of.

Because of his skating, playstyle, and pitbull mentality regarding puck retrieval, he's an NHLer at minimum. He trains with Gary Roberts if you're wondering whether this tiny person can eventually put on the muscle to play this way. His shooting ability can push him top 6 depending on team's depth on LW at the time.

If you're looking at his draft year numbers and wondering why it's a bit underwhelming: Peterborough was garbage as a team and Robertson started the year injured (wrist) and mostly played the season in spite of it (for the draft).
I think the weight and strength thing isnt an issue. He's 17, I think he's got a thick frame. He could be stout but stocky like Brad Marchand.
 

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