Nylander returning to Toronto

[Rebel_1812]

This move should be good for his development.

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Thomas Drance @ThomasDrance  ?  29m 29 minutes ago
Leafs play game 43 tonight. Thereafter, Nylander can be on the roster for the rest of the year + not accrue a season:

That being said, I think CtB is correct. Bad juju on MODO + desperate need on Marlies = Nylander on the Marlies to get a headstart on re-acclimatization + potential call up for NHL time without accruing a season.

As I understand it then, he could be on the Leafs roster and not accrue a season towards UFA but the 10 game limit would still apply to burning a year of his ELC.

 

[herman]

As I understand it then, he could be on the Leafs roster and not accrue a season towards UFA but the 10 game limit would still apply to burning a year of his ELC.

Yup, that's what it looks like to me too. But Will Ny the Swedish Guy is not likely to see NHL time unless he absolutely torches the AHL, and even then it'd only be for the final few games of the season to preserve his ELC years.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

As I understand it then, he could be on the Leafs roster and not accrue a season towards UFA but the 10 game limit would still apply to burning a year of his ELC.

Right, Drance said this was potentially a reverse-Draisaitl. The Oilers kept him up for the first half of the season and returned him before it cost them a year of UFA-service, while the Leafs could recall Nylander for the second half of the season to accomplish the same goal.

But given the reports from Cox and Mac that's obviously not really the plan. He'll be with the Marlies and it won't cost the Leafs a UFA year or an ELC year (assuming he doesn't play 10 NHL games).

 

[Bullfrog]

As I understand it then, he could be on the Leafs roster and not accrue a season towards UFA but the 10 game limit would still apply to burning a year of his ELC.

Yep, just read that in the CBA (Sentence 9.1 if anyone's interested.)

One thing I didn't realize: the 10 game rule (or 9 game depending on how you look at it) separately applies to each year of the ELC. For some reason I thought the clock just starts ticking once a player reaches 10 games. i.e. that once a year is burned off the ELC, the next year is the 2nd, then the 3rd.

 

[Bullfrog]

Right, Drance said this was potentially a reverse-Draisaitl. The Oilers kept him up for the first half of the season and returned him before it cost them a year of UFA-service, while the Leafs could recall Nylander for the second half of the season to accomplish the same goal.

But given the reports from Cox and Mac that's obviously not really the plan. He'll be with the Marlies and it won't cost the Leafs a UFA year or an ELC year (assuming he doesn't play 10 NHL games).

I wouldn't mind seeing him get a few NHL games in. Couldn't hurt really, especially with Holland and Lupul out.

 

[pmrules]

Can a player play the last 9 games of the season and then play all of the NHL playoffs  (since they don't get paid for playoffs) without burning a year of ELC/UFA?

If so, that would be good progression for Nylander.

Next year - full time NHL'er?  Thoughts?

 

[Redleaf]

It's official. He's been reassigned from MODO to the Marlies.

From Hendrick..

Leafs confirm that William Nylander has been recalled from Modo and assigned to the Toronto Marlies. #TMLtalk

 

[GhostofPotvin29]

Can a player play the last 9 games of the season and then play all of the NHL playoffs  (since they don't get paid for playoffs) without burning a year of ELC/UFA?

If so, that would be good progression for Nylander.

Next year - full time NHL'er?  Thoughts?

I believe playoffs count towards the 10 games.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I wouldn't mind seeing him get a few NHL games in. Couldn't hurt really, especially with Holland and Lupul out.

The Leafs have talked about not wanting to call up Connor Brown until he's set to play in the NHL full-time. So that basically rules him out of being called up when injuries hit. And Cox said they'll likely look at Nylander the same way. I think that's smart, unless the Leafs are out of the playoff race and want to play him in games 81 and 82 or something.

 

[Redleaf]

I wouldn't mind seeing him get a few NHL games in. Couldn't hurt really, especially with Holland and Lupul out.

The Leafs have talked about not wanting to call up Connor Brown until he's set to play in the NHL full-time. So that basically rules him out of being called up when injuries hit. And Cox said they'll likely look at Nylander the same way. I think that's smart, unless the Leafs are out of the playoff race and want to play him in games 81 and 82 or something.

I could be wrong, but I'm not sure they view Connor Brown in the same light they do Nylander. Remember, Nylander got a very long look at training camp, and Brown....not so much.

I'm guessing they believe Nylander is much closer to being NHL ready than Brown.

I'd wager that we see Nylander in the NHL at some point this season, even if it's just a game or two.

 

[Bullfrog]

It seems smart to keep him in the AHL. I think a patient approach is always wise. He didn't look too out of place in the training camp though.

 

[bustaheims]

The Leafs have talked about not wanting to call up Connor Brown until he's set to play in the NHL full-time. So that basically rules him out of being called up when injuries hit. And Cox said they'll likely look at Nylander the same way. I think that's smart, unless the Leafs are out of the playoff race and want to play him in games 81 and 82 or something.

Yeah, that's definitely the smarter way to do things. If he really tears up the AHL, then maybe you reward him with a "this is what the NHL is like" one game call up or something, but, otherwise, I don't expect to see him make any appearance of note at the NHL level this season.

 

[Redleaf]

The Leafs have talked about not wanting to call up Connor Brown until he's set to play in the NHL full-time. So that basically rules him out of being called up when injuries hit. And Cox said they'll likely look at Nylander the same way. I think that's smart, unless the Leafs are out of the playoff race and want to play him in games 81 and 82 or something.

Yeah, that's definitely the smarter way to do things. If he really tears up the AHL, then maybe you reward him with a "this is what the NHL is like" one game call up or something, but, otherwise, I don't expect to see him make any appearance of note at the NHL level this season.

I agree, but whoever said the Leafs are smart at doing things? :

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I could be wrong, but I'm not sure they view Connor Brown in the same light they do Nylander. Remember, Nylander got a very long look at training camp, and Brown....not so much.

I'm guessing they believe Nylander is much closer to being NHL ready than Brown.

You're right Nylander is definitely on a whole other level, but they do view Brown pretty highly too. I think the point is though they don't want to rush their top prospects. Brown's been by-far the Marlies best player this season, but hasn't been considered as a call-up when injuries have hit the Leafs. He's been deserving of a call-up but the Leafs don't want to rush him. So unless Nylander's being called up for good, I'd say expect him to stay with the Marlies all season long.

 

[herman]

The Leafs have talked about not wanting to call up Connor Brown until he's set to play in the NHL full-time. So that basically rules him out of being called up when injuries hit. And Cox said they'll likely look at Nylander the same way. I think that's smart, unless the Leafs are out of the playoff race and want to play him in games 81 and 82 or something.

Yeah, that's definitely the smarter way to do things. If he really tears up the AHL, then maybe you reward him with a "this is what the NHL is like" one game call up or something, but, otherwise, I don't expect to see him make any appearance of note at the NHL level this season.

I agree, but whoever said the Leafs are smart at doing things? :

Management's been pretty smart this year.

 

[Redleaf]

I could be wrong, but I'm not sure they view Connor Brown in the same light they do Nylander. Remember, Nylander got a very long look at training camp, and Brown....not so much.

I'm guessing they believe Nylander is much closer to being NHL ready than Brown.

You're right Nylander is definitely on a whole other level, but they do view Brown pretty highly too. I think the point is though they don't want to rush their top prospects. Brown's been by-far the Marlies best player this season, but hasn't been considered as a call-up when injuries have hit the Leafs. He's been deserving of a call-up but the Leafs don't want to rush him. So unless Nylander's being called up for good, I'd say expect him to stay with the Marlies all season long.

I hope you're right, because that is probably what is best, but for some reason I still see them wanting to see him in an NHL game or two this season.

 

[bustaheims]

I agree, but whoever said the Leafs are smart at doing things? :

While they're still pretty slow at doing things, they're starting to get smart about them.

 

[Redleaf]

I agree, but whoever said the Leafs are smart at doing thingis? :

While they're still pretty slow at doing things, they're starting to get smart about them.

Agreed. Let's hope they handle Nylander the proper way, and not rush him along too quickly.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

I hadn't seen enough of Nylander at the WJC to see for myself, but I'd read mention from a few sources some concern that Nylander tends to put himself in vulnerable positions on the ice.  No idea if there's any merit to that or not, but certainly if there were, it would be even more vital that Nylander learns to play on a smaller ice surface at the AHL level first.  I'd be happy to see him finish the season with the Marlies either way.