bustaheims
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Chev-boyar-sky said:
Clarkson might actually be a fit in LA, but, I'm not sure Richards has enough left in the tank to be much less of an albatross for the Leafs.
Official Armchair GM Thread 2014-2015 Leafs
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Clarkson might actually be a fit in LA, but, I'm not sure Richards has enough left in the tank to be much less of an albatross for the Leafs.
Britishbulldog
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Chev-boyar-sky said:
I really don't like Clarkson but I think I would really dislike Mike Richards even more.
I wonder how the cap management will be after seeing the goalie stats in the 'Game in 6' that Redleaf posted of last night's game:
Bobrovsky:
Record - 15-10-2
GAA - 2.75
Save % - .917
Bernier:
Record - 15-10-3
GAA - 2.75
Save % - .916
With the Vezina Bob gets $7.425 a year? What is Bernier worth? I was hoping 8 years @ $5.0 MIL In Arizona Mike Smith is getting $5.667 MIL though after his outstanding year last year.
bustaheims
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Joe S. said:
Gonna need quite a bit on top to make it work in terms of the cap. Unless they take Clarkson as part of the deal, it probably becomes not worth it - especially since Eric is only signed for one more season.
Kin
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bustaheims said:
And I think you've then hit on why we just aren't seeing many trades these days. To make things work under the cap a team looking to dump salary to a team near the cap will usually have to take back enough salary to the point where it's almost always going to be better for them to look to make a deal with a team who's offering considerably less in the way of assets but who don't need to offload garbage to make things fit.
Heroic Shrimp
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Nik the Trik said:
Do you think it would be inappropriate of me to petition the UN to declare the salary cap a crime against humanity?
Heroic Shrimp
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Nik the Trik said:
Okay, so it's not quite genocide bad, more like human trafficking bad.
Nik the Trik said:
Trade rumours haven't died, people just stopped paying attention to Eklund.
Rebel_1812
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Chev-boyar-sky said:
Yeah he has been a healthy scratch.
Heroic Shrimp
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Nik the Trik said:
On careful consideration, I think the answer must be yes if we're in support of trading players to Edmonton.
Chev-boyar-sky
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Anyone think there are possibilities with a deal around Gardiner, Kessel and Reimer returning Domi and PHX's 1st?
LuncheonMeat
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Chev-boyar-sky said:
NO. The Coyotes have made it be known that they want to shed salary, so giving up a pick and prospect in exchange for $15 million in salary is probably not going to work for them.
Britishbulldog
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I love blowing up the Leafs but I am not sure that Kessel is the right guy to target. He is a pure goal scorer and are hard to find. If Kessel was simply a piece of the team (like Chicago's Kane) then it would be great.
Using Kane as an example, next year Kane will have a $10.5 MIL cap hit compared to Kessel's $8.0 MIL.
Kane and Kessel's production the last 4 seasons:
14/15 43 ga 47 pts 45 ga 43 pts
13/14 69 ga 69 pts 82 ga 80 pts
12/13 47 ga 55 pts 48 ga 52 pts
11/12 82 ga 66 pts 82 ga 82 pts
For the money vs production, I don't think that Kessel is the problem
I think that the problem is that the Leafs don't have a Toews, Kopitar, etc.
Who I am not convinced of is Phaneuf and Clarkson. I also think Reimer is making too much money to be only an occasional backup. I think that Gardiner is going to be left behind by Rielly and I think that Franson will command a lot of money for a big, slow RH dman that has good offensive instincts. I really, really like Lupul but think that he is hurt too often to be the asset he should be with his level of skill. I also think that it would be ok if Bozak got traded. The assets I would move would be:
Reimer 1 yr $2.3 (NYI, DAL), Phaneuf 6 yr $7.0 (EDM), Gardiner 4 yr $4.05 (WPG), Franson UFA (MTL), Clarkson 5 yr $5.25 (EDM) , Lupul 3 yr $5.25 (CGY, DET,VAN), Bozak 3 yr $4.2 (??).
I don't know what the Leafs could get and from who but I had my suggestions.
Using Kane as an example, next year Kane will have a $10.5 MIL cap hit compared to Kessel's $8.0 MIL.
Kane and Kessel's production the last 4 seasons:
14/15 43 ga 47 pts 45 ga 43 pts
13/14 69 ga 69 pts 82 ga 80 pts
12/13 47 ga 55 pts 48 ga 52 pts
11/12 82 ga 66 pts 82 ga 82 pts
For the money vs production, I don't think that Kessel is the problem
I think that the problem is that the Leafs don't have a Toews, Kopitar, etc.
Who I am not convinced of is Phaneuf and Clarkson. I also think Reimer is making too much money to be only an occasional backup. I think that Gardiner is going to be left behind by Rielly and I think that Franson will command a lot of money for a big, slow RH dman that has good offensive instincts. I really, really like Lupul but think that he is hurt too often to be the asset he should be with his level of skill. I also think that it would be ok if Bozak got traded. The assets I would move would be:
Reimer 1 yr $2.3 (NYI, DAL), Phaneuf 6 yr $7.0 (EDM), Gardiner 4 yr $4.05 (WPG), Franson UFA (MTL), Clarkson 5 yr $5.25 (EDM) , Lupul 3 yr $5.25 (CGY, DET,VAN), Bozak 3 yr $4.2 (??).
I don't know what the Leafs could get and from who but I had my suggestions.
Kin
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Britishbulldog said:
Sure, but that's not the case and the idea behind trading Kessel would be that having Kessel on the team makes it basically impossible for that to ever be the case. Kessel being "the problem" is not an statement that Kessel is the worst player on the team or even an overpaid player, it's that having someone like him making the money he does contributes to the limbo the team is in. When Pittsburgh traded away Jaromir Jagr before their rebuild it wasn't because Jaromir Jagr isn't a good hockey player.
Chev-boyar-sky
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Britishbulldog said:
I really don't know if the Leafs will be competitive in Kessel's optimal window. Yes he is one of the best goal scorers around but he's also a massive defensive liability.
If there were a deal that would allow for future potential franchise players plus the 8M in space, I think it'd have to be a serious consideration.