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SpiderLeaf said:The Oilers got the bounces (all 3 of their goals), the Leafs didn't (puck hits Nylander and goes wide, puck on edge Spezza shoots it wide). That's what won the game.
Chris said:They look out of sorts on offense. Lots of bobbles, poor decisions and passes. Partly due, I think, to "forcing" Thornton and Vesey onto the first 2 lines. Neither belong in those positions. The Thornton issue might be solved by injury but Vesey needs to give way to Mikheyev.
At least, that's how it looks to me.
Frycer14 said:Chris said:They look out of sorts on offense. Lots of bobbles, poor decisions and passes. Partly due, I think, to "forcing" Thornton and Vesey onto the first 2 lines. Neither belong in those positions. The Thornton issue might be solved by injury but Vesey needs to give way to Mikheyev.
At least, that's how it looks to me.
Yeah, I agree. Thornton simply can't play at the pace the marner and matthews go at. It's been obvious since game one that they're doing well in spite of Thornton, not because of him.
And vesey is fine for the 3rd line I guess. Yeah, Mikeyev is skating well, he should be with Tavares, and Hyman should be back full time on the first line.
I think JTs line could use Hyman more then Matthews' line. Either way though I want to see Mikheyev get moved up.Frycer14 said:Chris said:They look out of sorts on offense. Lots of bobbles, poor decisions and passes. Partly due, I think, to "forcing" Thornton and Vesey onto the first 2 lines. Neither belong in those positions. The Thornton issue might be solved by injury but Vesey needs to give way to Mikheyev.
At least, that's how it looks to me.
Yeah, I agree. Thornton simply can't play at the pace the marner and matthews go at. It's been obvious since game one that they're doing well in spite of Thornton, not because of him.
And vesey is fine for the 3rd line I guess. Yeah, Mikeyev is skating well, he should be with Tavares, and Hyman should be back full time on the first line.
Leafs can put both Thornton and Robertson on LTIR but they'll have to get up to the cap before doing that. Let's see what the injury is first.Britishbulldog said:Frycer14 said:Chris said:They look out of sorts on offense. Lots of bobbles, poor decisions and passes. Partly due, I think, to "forcing" Thornton and Vesey onto the first 2 lines. Neither belong in those positions. The Thornton issue might be solved by injury but Vesey needs to give way to Mikheyev.
At least, that's how it looks to me.
Yeah, I agree. Thornton simply can't play at the pace the marner and matthews go at. It's been obvious since game one that they're doing well in spite of Thornton, not because of him.
And vesey is fine for the 3rd line I guess. Yeah, Mikeyev is skating well, he should be with Tavares, and Hyman should be back full time on the first line.
The kicker for me will be if Thornton is now hurt who do you replace him with...unless it is a major injury and he goes on LITR and even then he is a min league salary player. We also were already playing only 11 forwards.
BrownRolo said:So when Muzzin was carrying the puck up the ice and almost tripped that's not a penalty? I'm really getting sick of the Leafs getting the short end of the stick when it comes to calls.
The thing is this team doesn't dive or embellish calls. You would think refs want to reward that, but it's probably a better strategy to go down. If Muzzin goes down on that play they have to call a penalty.
dekedastardly said:I feel like this is the kind of game a good team finds ways to win. It shouldn't have been close enough for the bad bounces and calls against to make a difference. It could have been pretty well sewn up in the first, with the zone time they had.
Lots of zone time, lots of fancy skating and passing, but mostly kept to the outside. Not even seeing Matthews getting into the prime shooting areas very often. Not sure how much is the design of the offense/how other teams are countering, and how much is due to the lines being suboptimal due to personnel (Thornton and Vesey).BrownRolo said:dekedastardly said:I feel like this is the kind of game a good team finds ways to win. It shouldn't have been close enough for the bad bounces and calls against to make a difference. It could have been pretty well sewn up in the first, with the zone time they had.
It sure feels.like they have the same problem as they did against the BJs last year. Just can't get goals.
Chris said:I don't really pay much attention to the cap but if Thornton is going to be out for a while I'd like to see Engvall. Not sure if that would work cap-wise but I think he would make the biggest impact. Maybe they could give Barabanov a shot in the top 6. He hasn't shown much but hasn't really been given much time. Brooks would probably be safe but wouldn't be much of a threat offensively.
BrownRolo said:I feel I'm a pretty neutral fan when it comes to Reffing but the way the Leafs are continually jobbed by the refs is so frustrating.