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Phil Kessel

Fanatic said:
Okay, kidding aside, how long has it been since Kessel scored a goal? He scored in the loss to Carolina I think. So does that mean he went zero against TB, Dallas, Anaheim, and now Boston? That's only 4 games - not too bad. But he won't score on Saturday either.

I was enjoying him in the scoring lead....

You were enjoying him in the scoring lead? I assume you're not any longer, because he still leads the league. And why are you so sure he won't score on Saturday?

On a separate note, this is a good site to see when points were scored:
link

kessel is currently on his second  4-game goalless streak of the season.
 
Bullfrog said:
Fanatic said:
Okay, kidding aside, how long has it been since Kessel scored a goal? He scored in the loss to Carolina I think. So does that mean he went zero against TB, Dallas, Anaheim, and now Boston? That's only 4 games - not too bad. But he won't score on Saturday either.

I was enjoying him in the scoring lead....

You were enjoying him in the scoring lead? I assume you're not any longer, because he still leads the league. And why are you so sure he won't score on Saturday?

On a separate note, this is a good site to see when points were scored:
link

kessel is currently on his second  4-game goalless streak of the season.

Thanks for the link. I appreciate it.
 
Yup, Kessel is washed up.  Just because teams are focusing on him so hard, that's no excuse to change up the game plan and start passing the puck to your open linemate.  I say shoot and only shoot.  Wouldn't hurt to get rid of that #81 and put a #94 too.
 
moon111 said:
Yup, Kessel is washed up.  Just because teams are focusing on him so hard, that's no excuse to change up the game plan and start passing the puck to your open linemate.  I say shoot and only shoot.  Wouldn't hurt to get rid of that #81 and put a #94 too.

Is it bad that I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not?
 
TML fan said:
moon111 said:
Yup, Kessel is washed up.  Just because teams are focusing on him so hard, that's no excuse to change up the game plan and start passing the puck to your open linemate.  I say shoot and only shoot.  Wouldn't hurt to get rid of that #81 and put a #94 too.

Is it bad that I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not?

I think that last line should have given it away pretty clearly.
 
link to terrible article

Some of the problem with the above article is how it was edited.
Article before editing
but even with the original, I have issues.

Traikos finds an old ExLeaf who hasn't watched Kessel play. He describes Kessel to him with last season's criticism as someone "who has been criticized at times for not working hard in his own end, but whose accurate shot has resulted in 16 goals and 32 points in 25 games."

The exLeaf who has never seen Kessel compares Traikos' description of Kessel to exLeaf Gordie Drillon describing Drillon this way:
"He used to park himself in front of the opposing net. That's how he got his goals," Stanowski recalled. "He never battled for the puck. You had to pass it to him, and then he would take his shot and score."

From what I saw of a few clips and heard, Drillon was a one way player and basically a goal suck. The HHoF describes him this way:
HHoF link
Drillon's style of hockey was to park himself in front of the net and tip shots and swat at rebounds, and not worry about back-checking. "I spent ten years playing in the slot before anyone invented a name for it," he said later.
which is nowhere close to what Kessel usually does when he scores. Kessel is much more often on the move and takes the puck to the scoring areas of the ice and then let's it go. He works for his goals and doesn't just stand there letting others do the work so he can just bang them in (like Esposito, Ciccarelli and Andrechuk did many times as the article notes).

Further the edited article version ignores the improvement in Kessel's two way game this season - which was developing when he showed up in Toronto and his effort in that area was not as bad as folks made out in my opinion.

The article leaves a negative impression of Kessel and a false impression of how he plays the game. It's a pathetically bad article no matter which version is read while the edited one is obviously worse. Sorry for wasting a couple of minutes of your life but I didn't feel Traikos horrible writing and the Nat'l Post's awful editing deserved a free pass.
 
cw said:
link to terrible article

Some of the problem with the above article is how it was edited.
Article before editing
but even with the original, I have issues.

Traikos finds an old ExLeaf who hasn't watched Kessel play. He describes Kessel to him with last season's criticism as someone "who has been criticized at times for not working hard in his own end, but whose accurate shot has resulted in 16 goals and 32 points in 25 games."

The exLeaf who has never seen Kessel compares Traikos' description of Kessel to exLeaf Gordie Drillon describing Drillon this way:
"He used to park himself in front of the opposing net. That's how he got his goals," Stanowski recalled. "He never battled for the puck. You had to pass it to him, and then he would take his shot and score."

From what I saw of a few clips and heard, Drillon was a one way player and basically a goal suck. The HHoF describes him this way:
HHoF link
Drillon's style of hockey was to park himself in front of the net and tip shots and swat at rebounds, and not worry about back-checking. "I spent ten years playing in the slot before anyone invented a name for it," he said later.
which is nowhere close to what Kessel usually does when he scores. Kessel is much more often on the move and takes the puck to the scoring areas of the ice and then let's it go. He works for his goals and doesn't just stand there letting others do the work so he can just bang them in (like Esposito, Ciccarelli and Andrechuk did many times as the article notes).

Further the edited article version ignores the improvement in Kessel's two way game this season - which was developing when he showed up in Toronto and his effort in that area was not as bad as folks made out in my opinion.

The article leaves a negative impression of Kessel and a false impression of how he plays the game. It's a pathetically bad article no matter which version is read while the edited one is obviously worse. Sorry for wasting a couple of minutes of your life but I didn't feel Traikos horrible writing and the Nat'l Post's awful editing deserved a free pass.

So, basically, the author has apparently watched Kessel play as little as Stanowski (who's never seen Kessel) has.  Poor Stanowski, that should qualify as elder abuse.  I'm sure that with a sufficiently poor description of Brian Gionta by Traikos, I'm sure he could also coax Stanowski to compare him to Frank Mahovlich.
 
Boy, if ever I've heard a polar opposite description of a player it's in that article, Kessel is about as far from a doorstep player as you could get.

Kessel is battling for pucks just fine.

 
Older man shakes fist at cloud and says sports were better when he was a kid. News at 11.
 
I know it is terribly unpopular to say anything even remotely negative about Phil, but I would sure like to see him get going again with a goal or two against a team like the Rangers. He has not scored in the previous 5 games and I am hoping he is due.
 
Fanatic said:
I know it is terribly unpopular to say anything even remotely negative about Phil, but I would sure like to see him get going again with a goal or two against a team like the Rangers. He has not scored in the previous 5 games and I am hoping he is due.

The thing is most of the 'negative' stuff that bugs me is when I read complaints about Seguin and no real critical assessment of Phil's actual play past 'goalless streak'.
 
Not only has Kessel not gone consecutive games without a point, he's yet to go pointless twice in any stretch of 3 games.
 
Busta Reims said:
Not only has Kessel not gone consecutive games without a point, he's yet to go pointless twice in any stretch of 3 games.

That's the nicest thing about Kessel this season.  For long stretches in the last 2 seasons he would go games where you didn't even realize he was on the ice.  No shots on net, no rushes with the puck.  This season so far he's been IN pretty much every game (ok maybe not the Boston games).  You notice him out there all the time.  Even when he's not scoring he's getting good quality chances or making a nice backcheck which he NEVER did before.  I'm really happy with this new and improved Kessel.
 
Tigger said:
Oh c'mon, he was 'in' the Boston games.

Sure, but he was effectively shut down well in those games.  The point is, aside from those games he hasn't had extended periods of being totally shut down by teams.  He did last year.
 

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