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Players for Monument outside ACC...

Bullfrog said:
LittleHockeyFan said:
Hap Day. Syl Apps. Turk Broda. Johnny Bower. Red Horner. King Clancy. For the 'old days'

Mid days? Keon, Armstrong, Kennedy (as chosen!), Salming. Sentimentally Horton, although he played for Buffalo when he died.

Nowadays? Sittler.  Maybe Sundin. Maybe Gilmour.

Sundin should be a given, not a maybe.

Sorry.....I just meant that Sittler should be first. Agreed, both Sundin and Gilmour deserve it too, but Sittler first. Sorry I didn't make myself more clear.
 
I'm thinking about selling brown paper bags with eye-holes cut out so people can have their picture taken at the monument.
 
Corn Flake said:
but seriously, shouldn't it basically be ever player with a number in the rafters, plus Keon?

That seems like it would be a lot of statues. Don't the Leafs have, like, 17 guys either honored or retired?

Beyond that are you really building a statue for Gilmour on the basis of five good seasons? Or Clark?
 
LittleHockeyFan said:
Hap Day. Syl Apps. Turk Broda. Johnny Bower. Red Horner. King Clancy. For the 'old days'

Mid days? Keon, Armstrong, Kennedy (as chosen!), Salming. Sentimentally Horton, although he played for Buffalo when he died.

Nowadays? Sittler.  Maybe Sundin. Maybe Gilmour.

Tim Horton also played 19 seasons with the Leafs. Much more deserving than Gilmour as far as I'm concerned. Of course I love Gilmour and Clark but neither should be there.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Beyond that are you really building a statue for Gilmour on the basis of five good seasons? Or Clark?

For something like this, I think lending a fair amount of weight to fan perception is fair. Part of the purpose of this structure is to pay homage to the most iconic figures in Leafs' history, and I think Clark and Gilmour would qualify there.
 
bustaheims said:
For something like this, I think lending a fair amount of weight to fan perception is fair. Part of the purpose of this structure is to pay homage to the most iconic figures in Leafs' history, and I think Clark and Gilmour would qualify there.

I think that if you're building a permanent monument, for whatever reason, you probably want to avoid making too many decisions that would betray a recency bias. Those guys are iconic to fans of a certain age, sure, but that may be less of a testament to them than it is to their circumstances.

But, like you say, if the purpose is to celebrate the Leafs' own iconography rather than, say, greatness then there's an argument for their inclusion. If that's the purpose, though, I feel like there's probably less of an argument for the statues in the first place.
 
Judging from the rendering of the site, it looks like they'll be picking 10 players, 9 skaters and a goalie. The goalie is almost definitely Bower, so that leaves 9 skaters:

Kennedy, Sundin, Sittler, Keon, Salming, Horton, Apps

Of those guys I only ever saw Sundin play, but using what I know/what I've read I'd say those 7 are pretty much locks. That leaves room for 2 more skaters. Gilmour and Clark are in the conversation but honestly I think they'd only get picked if the team wanted some more modern players.
 
Bullfrog said:
Someone like Mahovlich should probably be there before Clark or Gilmour.

The Big M probably should.  He would be representing the '60's era Leafs.
I consider him as having an outside chance of being chosen.

Not only was Mahovlich called the closest thing to a superstar the Leafs had in those days, he was also the only Leaf who could lift the fans out of their
seats each and everytime he streaked down the wing.  He had a style, elan, unlike too many players of his era.  Call him unique plus a great sharp shooter on ice.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Judging from the rendering of the site, it looks like they'll be picking 10 players, 9 skaters and a goalie. The goalie is almost definitely Bower, so that leaves 9 skaters:

Kennedy, Sundin, Sittler, Keon, Salming, Horton, Apps

Of those guys I only ever saw Sundin play, but using what I know/what I've read I'd say those 7 are pretty much locks. That leaves room for 2 more skaters. Gilmour and Clark are in the conversation but honestly I think they'd only get picked if the team wanted some more modern players.

They said they'd be leaving a spot blank for future greats though, right? Anyways, those 8 would be my choices as well with Conacher and Mahovlich as the two next guys.
 
Nik the Trik said:
They said they'd be leaving a spot blank for future greats though, right?

They better get Kessel's cheeks right.

Nik the Trik said:
Anyways, those 8 would be my choices as well with Conacher and Mahovlich as the two next guys.

Yeah, these guys would be the next two to come up in the Best Leafs conversation. So again it just depends on if they want more than 1 player there who has played for the team in the past 25 years.
 
mirtle: Bower and Sittler are the Leafs next two statutes. Good choices. Seven to go!

No surprises there. I think we all knew they'd both be part of it.
 
bustaheims said:
mirtle: Bower and Sittler are the Leafs next two statutes. Good choices. Seven to go!

No surprises there. I think we all knew they'd both be part of it.

Just got a BBM update on the Leafs channel confirming this. Can't argue with any of those choices.
 
I believe these are going to be the players getting statues. I was walking by the statue site yesterday and this was on the side of the work trailer.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUUG-zmgbOU&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]
 
dappleganger said:
I believe these are going to be the players getting statues. I was walking by the statue site yesterday and this was on the side of the work trailer.

They seem to want to keep these announcements a secret so I doubt they'd just put them up like that. Also, yeah no way Phaneuf gets a statue any time soon, unless it's of him hoisting the Cup.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
dappleganger said:
I believe these are going to be the players getting statues. I was walking by the statue site yesterday and this was on the side of the work trailer.

They seem to want to keep these announcements a secret so I doubt they'd just put them up like that. Also, yeah no way Phaneuf gets a statue any time soon, unless it's of him hoisting the Cup.

Yeah, Phaneuf does stick out like a sore thumb.
 

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