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Playoffs Round 2: Panthers vs. Maple Leafs

mr grieves said:
Ok so what’s the lesson the Leafs oughta take from being least quickly steamrolled by Florida?
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Framed like that, there could be a lesson. I don't think most Leafs fans and media would want to hear it. Because if you assume that Florida is the best team, then instead of the distance between the Leafs and serious, viable contention being 2 more rounds of playoffs, it's win 1 more game in a 7 game series. If that were the case, then the round in which the Leafs lost to Florida ins't a good indicator of the state of the team. Making decisions based on the frustration of years past would be foolish.

Maybe best for everyone if Carolina can come back and make a series out of the Eastern Conference final. My torches and pitchforks were non refundable.
 
IJustLurkHere said:
Framed like that, there could be a lesson. I don't think most Leafs fans and media would want to hear it. Because if you assume that Florida is the best team, then instead of the distance between the Leafs and serious, viable contention being 2 more rounds of playoffs, it's win 1 more game in a 7 game series. If that were the case, then the round in which the Leafs lost to Florida ins't a good indicator of the state of the team. Making decisions based on the frustration of years past would be foolish.

Maybe best for everyone if Carolina can come back and make a series out of the Eastern Conference final. My torches and pitchforks were non refundable.
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Imagine if Florida had looked at their 2022 playoffs the way you're suggesting we ought to look at the Leafs' 2025...
 
mr grieves said:
Imagine if Florida had looked at their 2022 playoffs the way you're suggesting we ought to look at the Leafs' 2025...
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Florida got swept in the 2022 Playoffs. It's indicative of the current mood that you're suggesting the two are equivalent.

It's not like Florida spent the summer of 2022 blowing up their roster either. They made the big Huberdeau for Tkachuk trade. Otherwise, 7 of their top 10 scorers were the same in 2023 (and 8 of 2023's top 10 are still there). Their #1 Dman is the same. Their #1 goalie is the same.

If there is an equivalent to the Huberdeau - Tkachuk deal to be done, I'm not advocating against it when I answer your question of "what can the Leafs take from being the least quickly steamrolled" by saying that maybe your question is worth actually considering.
 
IJustLurkHere said:
Florida got swept in the 2022 Playoffs. It's indicative of the current mood that you're suggesting the two are equivalent.

It's not like Florida spent the summer of 2022 blowing up their roster either. They made the big Huberdeau for Tkachuk trade. Otherwise, 7 of their top 10 scorers were the same in 2023 (and 8 of 2023's top 10 are still there). Their #1 Dman is the same. Their #1 goalie is the same.

If there is an equivalent to the Huberdeau - Tkachuk deal to be done, I'm not advocating against it when I answer your question of "what can the Leafs take from being the least quickly steamrolled" by saying that maybe your question is worth actually considering.
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That was a garbage trade for Calgary at the time and done by none other than the amazing GM the leafs have now.
 
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