Potential Expansion Draft Rules

[CarltonTheBear]

The NHL discussed potential expansion rules with the GMs at their annual meetings today. Friedman outlines them in his latest 30 Thoughts:

The choice is three defencemen and seven forwards OR eight skaters of any makeup. One expansion team means you can only lose one player. Two means two players. Anyone with fewer than three years of professional experience is exempt. You don?t have to worry about losing them.

The issue of NMC's hasn't been decided yet, Friedman touches on that too. In the CBA it only specifically mentions being able to block a trade, waivers, or a loan, so I would guess that they won't apply here. Depends on how hard the PA wants to fight it.

As Friedman also mentions, the biggest change from these rules to the past rules is that teams will likely only be able to protect 1 goalie instead of 2. That'll probably be the biggest challenge for teams to figure out.

 

[bustaheims]

Some other tidbits of note - the league expects to announce its decision on expansion before the draft this June, the Quebec group is concerned about the drop in the value of the dollar in relation to their bid (from their perspective, not just the league's), and should there be an expansion draft, it would happen June 2017.

 

[Kin]

I still think Quebec is dunzo. All this chatter makes me think Vegas is a strong possibility though.

 

[bustaheims]

I still think Quebec is dunzo. All this chatter makes me think Vegas is a strong possibility though.

Yeah. It sounds like Quebec is pretty unlikely at this point. Everyone involved seems less than convinced that it's a worthwhile investment at the moment.

 

[Kin]

Another thing to consider and that I haven't seen around is that you'd assume that any expansion team would still have to hit the cap floor, right? So if the cap is 74 million and the floor is near 58 then either an expansion team would be inclined to take some bad contracts back or spend a ton in free agency.   

 

[cabber24]

What pick does an expansion team get in the draft?

 

[bustaheims]

What pick does an expansion team get in the draft?

That's still TBD. In the past, they've been slotted in starting at 2nd overall.

 

[cabber24]

What pick does an expansion team get in the draft?

That's still TBD. In the past, they've been slotted in starting at 2nd overall.

Leafs can't even tank right... bad timing with the draft changes and possible expansion.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Some expansion draft scenarios: impacting teams...

Take the Stanley Cup defending champion Chicago Blackhawks. If the expansion draft is held in the summer of 2017, they would likely want to protect Duncan Keith, Brent Seabrook, Niklas Hjalmarsson and maybe prospect Trevor van Riemsdyk.

But that would mean they could safeguard only four forwards, with Jonathan Toews, Patrick Kane, Artemi Panarin and Teuvo Teravainen the possible options.

Everyone else ? including Marian Hossa, Andrew Ladd (if he?s re-signed), Andrew Shaw and Artem Anisimov ? would be available to Vegas.

Other teams, with more rising talent, could have even tougher choices. If the Washington Capitals want to protect four defencemen, for example, would they lose Marcus Johansson or T.J. Oshie up front?

Plenty of teams also have two decent options in goal. What would the Pittsburgh Penguins do with a choice between Marc-Andr? Fleury (who will be 32 by then) and rising star Matt Murray (nearly a decade younger)?

And what will be the impact of no-movement clauses.

A team with five solid defencemen could move one for a quality forward, for example, then protect four D and that newcomer.

?There are going to be a ton of trades prior to the draft,? one team said on Wednesday.

The salary cap has added a lot more wrinkles to this process. The NHL is expected to force teams to expose at least 25 per cent of their salaries from the previous season, meaning it can?t be all players making the league minimum.

Some teams might use the draft as an opportunity to clear unwanted salary, as the Vegas team would likely have plenty of space to assume an overpriced-but-useful veteran.

Taken as a whole, it could mean roster chaos in the narrow window between the 2017 Stanley Cup final and free agency, depending on when an expansion draft would be held.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/hockey/las-vegas-to-get-a-nhl-team-that-might-be-worthy-of-a-wager/article29267432/

 

[Kin]

From Friedman's latest 30 Thoughts:

1. Sometime this week, the NHL and NHLPA agreed on expansion draft rules. No-move clauses are protected, and teams will not be able to expose those players.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-thoughts-players-drop-draft/

 

[digdug]

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nhl-executive-committee-recommends-las-vegas-expansion--report-041755540.html

Looks like there probably will be an expansion draft in one year's time

Leafs will more than likely protect  1 g, 3 d and 7 f
but the rules are still not set in stone

would they have to protect  Nylander?  Zaitsev?  Sosh?  Hyman?
or would they be exempt for one reason or another?

Leafs are guaranteed to lose one player, and he more than likely will be pretty good whoever he is.

The link below has some interesting thoughts.

http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2016/3/17/11248450/how-does-the-nhl-expansion-draft-work-a-primer



Should be an interesting year.

 

[TBLeafer]

Vegas it is.

[size=12pt]NHL chooses Las Vegas for expansion team: report
Quebec City passed over

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-expansion-las-vegas-1.3634626

 

[rdowdall]

Vegas it is.

[size=12pt]NHL chooses Las Vegas for expansion team: report
Quebec City passed over

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-expansion-las-vegas-1.3634626

That page is not up anymore.  Wonder if it is traffic, or if they released it too soon.

EDIT:  It was traffic apparently.

 

[TBLeafer]

Vegas it is.

[size=12pt]NHL chooses Las Vegas for expansion team: report
Quebec City passed over

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/nhl/nhl-expansion-las-vegas-1.3634626

That page is not up anymore.  Wonder if it is traffic, or if they released it too soon.

EDIT:  It was traffic apparently.

Yeah, just tried it again myself and it works.  Each team will only lose one unprotected player from their roster, not 2.

 

[herman]

Can you imagine the lockdown rules teams will have when visiting? or the subsequent TMZ clickbait headlines? or the rash of internal suspensions that will be handed out?

 

[Bates]

Next CBA will have a mandated off day after every game played in Vegas.  Home game points alone should make the Vegas team competitive points wise.

 

[Kin]

Next CBA will have a mandated off day after every game played in Vegas.  Home game points alone should make the Vegas team competitive points wise.

Provided all the players on the Vegas team don't crash and burn themselves.

Although for what it's worth I've always thought that element is overblown. I've been to both cities and there's really nothing you can do in Vegas you can't do in New York.

 

[herman]

Next CBA will have a mandated off day after every game played in Vegas.  Home game points alone should make the Vegas team competitive points wise.

Provided all the players on the Vegas team don't crash and burn themselves.

Although for what it's worth I've always thought that element is overblown. I've been to both cities and there's really nothing you can do in Vegas you can't do in New York.

Is there anything else to do in Vegas?

 

[Bates]

Really Vegas won't be that different than any other City after a couple visits.  It will be a rink and a hotel.  And the local guys will live in a normal hood like they do in any other nhl city.  But year one all bets are off!!

 

[Kin]

Is there anything else to do in Vegas?

I saw Penn and Teller's show. That was pretty cool.