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Bender said:Leafs lose a game and you'd think they were picking first overall in the draft.Nik said:Deebo said:Nik said:tomcom said:L K said:Down 2 and they spent way too much time trying to be cute on the PP
They have been like that all season. So predictable and Rielly still refuse to shoot.
It was the #1 PP in the league.
It was the 15h highest PP% of all time and 4th in the last 30 years.
I was going to say that other than the McDavid Oilers it was the most successful PP any team has had in three years but yours is better.
But yeah. Bad all year.
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Not at all ?the script remains the same, is I think what is being expressed, which is a completely justified view until they show differently.
Derk said:azzurri63 said:Derk said:Okay, nice for the leafs to finally get a pp but I'm sorry, the refs have been terrible.
I've said this before but I'll say it again for those new or didn't see it. I live out west and one of my golfing buddies doesn't watch hockey anymore. His take since Bettman became full fledged commissioner for a full season no Canadian team has won Lord Stanley. Coincidence?
No. Five different Canadian teams have made it to the finals since Montreal last won the cup. I think it is just that the league has started to catch up.
tomcom said:They are #1 because they have the best shooter in the entire league.
BermudaBudsFan said:Bender said:Leafs lose a game and you'd think they were picking first overall in the draft.Nik said:Deebo said:Nik said:tomcom said:L K said:Down 2 and they spent way too much time trying to be cute on the PP
They have been like that all season. So predictable and Rielly still refuse to shoot.
It was the #1 PP in the league.
It was the 15h highest PP% of all time and 4th in the last 30 years.
I was going to say that other than the McDavid Oilers it was the most successful PP any team has had in three years but yours is better.
But yeah. Bad all year.
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Not at all ?the script remains the same, is I think what is being expressed, which is a completely justified view until they show differently.
I agree with this fundamental premise, but let's make reasonable arguments in defense of it. The fact is that this is going to be a tough series for the Leafs (or any other team) to win, and if they don't, the question is what changes should be made.
Nik said:tomcom said:They are #1 because they have the best shooter in the entire league.
The Leafs PP this year was 7.2% more effective than St. Louis' was the year Brett Hull scored 86 goals. It was 3.1% more effective than Pittsburgh had the year Mario Lemieux scored 85. It was 1.7% more effective than the Oilers the year Gretzky scored the most goals anyone has ever scored during a NHL season. It was more effective than any PP the Caps have had during Ovechkin's entire career.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:Absolutely they need to prove it, but I'm cheering until the bitter end of their run, and quite frankly the talk of the narrative still being the same in a 1-1 series is so goddamn irritating, especially when they're nowhere to be found during literally the best regular season in franchise history and only come out to shit on the team after a playoff loss.BermudaBudsFan said:Bender said:Leafs lose a game and you'd think they were picking first overall in the draft.Nik said:Deebo said:Nik said:tomcom said:L K said:Down 2 and they spent way too much time trying to be cute on the PP
They have been like that all season. So predictable and Rielly still refuse to shoot.
It was the #1 PP in the league.
It was the 15h highest PP% of all time and 4th in the last 30 years.
I was going to say that other than the McDavid Oilers it was the most successful PP any team has had in three years but yours is better.
But yeah. Bad all year.
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Not at all ?the script remains the same, is I think what is being expressed, which is a completely justified view until they show differently.
I agree with this fundamental premise, but let's make reasonable arguments in defense of it. The fact is that this is going to be a tough series for the Leafs (or any other team) to win, and if they don't, the question is what changes should be made.
CarltonTheBear said:Kucherov and Stamkos both didn't get a single shot attempt while up against Matthews/Marner at 5-on-5. Tavares, even though he isn't producing enough offence, also did a very good job neutralizing them at 5-on-5. Cut the dumb penalties down and this series is still in Toronto's favour.
CarltonTheBear said:Kucherov and Stamkos both didn't get a single shot attempt while up against Matthews/Marner at 5-on-5. Tavares, even though he isn't producing enough offence, also did a very good job neutralizing them at 5-on-5. Cut the dumb penalties down and this series is still in Toronto's favour.
L K said:I think we need more from Tavares though. We need more from Nylander too but the thing about Tavares is I'm not really seeing much of anything one way or the other.
L K said:The 4th line was really bad last night but was it just me or did I see them have more than a handful of shifts against the Kucherov line.
CarltonTheBear said:L K said:I think we need more from Tavares though. We need more from Nylander too but the thing about Tavares is I'm not really seeing much of anything one way or the other.
Obviously Tavares is getting paid enough money to be more than just a shutdown C but if he's able to neutralize the Stamkos/Kucherov line in Tampa then even if he doesn't really provide much offence that's putting us in a very good position to win those games.
L K said:The 4th line was really bad last night but was it just me or did I see them have more than a handful of shifts against the Kucherov line.
Kucherov played about a minute against both Blackwell and Simmonds. Stamkos had about a minute against Blackwell but just 4 seconds against Simmonds. So not much there.
L K said:CarltonTheBear said:L K said:I think we need more from Tavares though. We need more from Nylander too but the thing about Tavares is I'm not really seeing much of anything one way or the other.
Obviously Tavares is getting paid enough money to be more than just a shutdown C but if he's able to neutralize the Stamkos/Kucherov line in Tampa then even if he doesn't really provide much offence that's putting us in a very good position to win those games.
L K said:The 4th line was really bad last night but was it just me or did I see them have more than a handful of shifts against the Kucherov line.
Kucherov played about a minute against both Blackwell and Simmonds. Stamkos had about a minute against Blackwell but just 4 seconds against Simmonds. So not much there.
Ok so it was just a notable shift then. Thanks.
In defence of Nylander he is tied for 2nd on the team in shots so hopefully he can start putting them behind Vasilevskiy
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:8 have ended up there already. He's not invincible. The hair-trigger pessimism from some (not you) is not justified.
Agree. Have to stop the dumb penalties. I think JT is playing fine, just not on the offensive side yet. It's only the 2nd game. We need M&M to keep going and Willy and JT need to get it going.CarltonTheBear said:Kucherov and Stamkos both didn't get a single shot attempt while up against Matthews/Marner at 5-on-5. Tavares, even though he isn't producing enough offence, also did a very good job neutralizing them at 5-on-5. Cut the dumb penalties down and this series is still in Toronto's favour.
Guilt Trip said:Agree. Have to stop the dumb penalties. I think JT is playing fine, just not on the offensive side yet. It's only the 2nd game. We need M&M to keep going and Willy and JT need to get it going.CarltonTheBear said:Kucherov and Stamkos both didn't get a single shot attempt while up against Matthews/Marner at 5-on-5. Tavares, even though he isn't producing enough offence, also did a very good job neutralizing them at 5-on-5. Cut the dumb penalties down and this series is still in Toronto's favour.
bustaheims said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:8 have ended up there already. He's not invincible. The hair-trigger pessimism from some (not you) is not justified.
He made some very timely saves last night, but, overall, he has looked beatable.