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R1G4: Bruins @ Leafs - May 8th, 7:00pm - CBC, Fan 590

Nik the Trik said:
Also, I can't get on board with the idea that the Leafs have outplayed Boston for "most of the series". Pace isn't the be all and end all, neither is possession. Execution is part of the game and, in that regard, the Leafs have been significantly outclassed.

Totally, I always judge the better team by who wins, because you know, they executed better and won the game. Such an insightful hockey analyst.
 
April Reimer clarified the incident with Elisha Cuthbert

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2013/05/08/elisha-cuthbert-rolled-her-eyes-during-torontos-loss-to-boston-and-the-internet-went-wild/
 
CupOneDay said:
Nik the Trik said:
Also, I can't get on board with the idea that the Leafs have outplayed Boston for "most of the series". Pace isn't the be all and end all, neither is possession. Execution is part of the game and, in that regard, the Leafs have been significantly outclassed.

Totally, I always judge the better team by who wins, because you know, they executed better and won the game. Such an insightful hockey analyst.

You might lose a game to a team that you 'outplayed' but over a seven game series, the cream will rise to the top.
 
CupOneDay said:
Really? Are you joking?

The entire premise of the Leafs making the playoffs this year was to gain experience and mature as players. You are seriously going to say they won't be better next year? Unless half the team gets hit by a friging bus they will be better next year and I feel bad for the team who gets them first round.

I think what the original poster said is correct, maybe, maybe not.  Making the playoffs this year ensures nothing in the future.  We need a better goalie to do anything, reimer isn't going to cut it.

If you ask me, if I were to compare the Leafs franchise to any other based on historical context I would say the Leafs are on the same trajectory as the red sox, and we haven't reached the buckner moment yet. 
 
CupOneDay said:
Totally, I always judge the better team by who wins, because you know, they executed better and won the game. Such an insightful hockey analyst.

You're not good at responding to people.
 
Phaneuf played quite a bit better in the regs but has reverted in the playoffs.  I doubt whether he'll be traded, but as I think lc9 said he really isn't good enough to be the top defenseman.  I think for next year the D needs to be built around Franson, Gunnarsson, and Gardiner.  Phaneuf somehow needs to be relegated to the 2nd pairing.

The trouble is, of course, that we have no one to eat big minutes on the top pairing, and acquiring such a guy ... well, I have no good ideas how to do it.
 
barney_rebel said:
April Reimer clarified the incident with Elisha Cuthbert

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2013/05/08/elisha-cuthbert-rolled-her-eyes-during-torontos-loss-to-boston-and-the-internet-went-wild/

Don't tell me they got to you too, barney. Trust no one.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Nik the Trik said:
CupOneDay said:
Really? Are you joking?

The entire premise of the Leafs making the playoffs this year was to gain experience and mature as players. You are seriously going to say they won't be better next year? Unless half the team gets hit by a friging bus they will be better next year and I feel bad for the team who gets them first round.

But as much as that might be the hope the reality of the new NHL isn't quite as linear as that. Teams fluctuate up and down year to year. If the Leafs had an unbelievable group of NHL ready prospects or guys coming back from injury then it'd be a safer bet but there really is no way to know if the Leafs will be able to build on this.

A full season of Lupul should help. And Gardiner was kinda hurt/beingscratchedanddemotedforabsolutelynoreason.

Then again we did have a lot of offensive players who probably won't put up similar numbers next season. And I have my doubts Reimer can replicate the season that he had.

We can speculate all we want but I'll tell you this: I'd rather be us than VAN.  The potential for upward trajectory is greater.
 
Nik the Trik said:
barney_rebel said:
April Reimer clarified the incident with Elisha Cuthbert

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2013/05/08/elisha-cuthbert-rolled-her-eyes-during-torontos-loss-to-boston-and-the-internet-went-wild/

Don't tell me they got to you too, barney. Trust no one.

Are you kidding?  The Leafs are going to win the next 3 games and then sweep all the way to the Cup finals....
 
Heroic Shrimp said:
Snoop Lion said:
CupOneDay said:
Snoop Lion said:
MetalRaven said:
As far as Im concerned the playoffs have been a rousing success...we won at least a game against a team that everyone predicted was waaaayyy better then us and we've won more games then Vancouver. Our team will be much stronger next near for this.

Maybe, maybe not. You never know what the future holds in store for you.

Really? Are you joking?

The entire premise of the Leafs making the playoffs this year was to gain experience and mature as players. You are seriously going to say they won't be better next year? Unless half the team gets hit by a friging bus they will be better next year and I feel bad for the team who gets them first round.

I'm not joking, you may think it's a foregone conclusion that they'll be in this position next year and they will be better, but it doesn't work that way.

I'm optimistic, but I agree.  The swing from one year to another can be mind-boggling.  Cup finalists missing the playoffs the next year, bottom feeders winning their division the next year...

Thanks, that's exactly what I'm getting at.

Over the course of a season you face injuries, slumps, the competition might be a lot stronger (I happen to believe the East was weaker than usual but that's just MO)... And sometimes you just get a lot of bad breaks that can't be helped.

That's why I was really hoping the Leafs would sneak their way into the 2nd or 3rd round.
 
barney_rebel said:
Nik the Trik said:
barney_rebel said:
April Reimer clarified the incident with Elisha Cuthbert

http://www.thebiglead.com/index.php/2013/05/08/elisha-cuthbert-rolled-her-eyes-during-torontos-loss-to-boston-and-the-internet-went-wild/

Don't tell me they got to you too, barney. Trust no one.

Are you kidding?  The Leafs are going to win the next 3 games and then sweep all the way to the Cup finals....

We rule man!
 
I got a lot of 'if onlys' running through my head.

The biggest, by far, is: 'if only the Leafs had won that last game against Montreal.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
GIF form:

CuthbertEyeRoll.gif

Am I the only one re-watching the video and doesn't actually care about the eye roll incident? ;)
 
Was at the game.  Reimer looked awful - he seemed surprised every time he made a save and constantly lost sight of the puck.  People seem to be blaming Phaneuf for that last goal on this board, but Boston had exactly one place to shoot on that rush - short side - and shot it there.  Reimer has to make that save every single time.
 
Well, I just finished my PVR viewing of the game. Exciting as hell, but yeah, that's one that hurts. Can't we all just cheer ONCE?

Weak goal ended it, but that's pretty much what I expected when the OT started. Rask is a great goalie, Reimer is a very good goalie. That was, and is, the main difference.

Man, that sucked.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I only started watching from the beginning of the third, but I had no idea that Orr played that game until I checked the box score. I just assumed Randy scratched him for MacArthur.

Two shifts in the second. None in the third. None in overtime. Did he get hurt or did Carlyle just show why he absolutely shouldn't be playing in the playoffs?

If only everyone played with as much effort as Orr.
 
Oh well, a loss is a loss, even a playoff loss.  James Reimer is still in the playoff learning process as a largely inexperienced 'keeper.  He will get better and better as he hones his skills & elevates his game the way all great goalies have done.

Even it the Leafs are eliminated, as a fan, I would still be proud of the team's accomplishments. They've shown they can battle with the best of them.

Absolutely nothing to be ashamed  of.  Improvements will certainly follow,
 
The Leafs played well as a team, and generated quite a few scoring chances, notwithstanding being outmatched.

But if you compare 3 key positions, it should not be (nor is it really) close in terms of talent:

Chara  vs.  Phaneuf
Rask  vs.  Reimer
Krejci  vs.  Bozak

The Leafs have to get better in net,  and get another defenceman to play instead of giving all of that ice-time to Phaneuf,  and get a big-time center who generates offense, and is good on face-offs.  (Whether this will happen over the next 1 to 2 years......).
 
My conclusion regarding Phaneuf, is that he is just plain old stupid. He has all the skill in the world but does not have the intelligence to make good decisions. If he wasn't so dumb, he would be hell of a player.

I honestly think the Leafs need to perform some sort of psych or IQ testing on Phaneuf and come up with a game plan to stimulate this guys brain. Play some lumosity or something.

No, I'm not kidding.
 

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