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Red Wings @ Leafs - Dec. 23rd, 7:30pm - SN, Fan 590

herman, maybe I'm misreading your mood but not sure why you're so touchy about this.  As I've said before -- explicitly and plainly -- you could be writing this stuff for a living.  I don't have the time or interest to go out and source advanced stats like you do.  I expressed my opinion that you are painting him in the best light possible, and had no doubt that you can back it up with numbers.  And you have. 

Here are some other numbers: 0 goals & 2 assists so far.  You can denigrate scoring stats all you want, but at the end of the day they hand out the Cup to the team that scores more goals than the opponent, so those stats aren't meaningless.

So therefore my opinion, based on those stats, is that he needs to get going sooner rather than later.  That's all the discussion is.  Not going to apologize for holding that opinion.

 
Bender said:
herman said:
Gardiner is Santa Claus tonight. What a gift.
How hard is it to not throw it up the middle?

That?s technically the Leafs system breaking out through a swinging centre. The pass was too hard and through everyone except the pinching defenceman.
 
lc9 said:
TML fan said:
Gardiner....

Some people actually want to pay him. Certifiable.  He needs to be traded before the deadline.

Unless you can get Trouba for him, I?m not sure there?s a strong option in trade while we are aiming to contend.
 
Brown going hard after that back pass 200? down the ice after a hard defensive shift is Babcock porn.
 
herman said:
lc9 said:
TML fan said:
Gardiner....

Some people actually want to pay him. Certifiable.  He needs to be traded before the deadline.

Unless you can get Trouba for him, I?m not sure there?s a strong option in trade while we are aiming to contend.

Anything is better than nothing. He is likely to walk.  A few draft picks is fine.  Gardiner hurts the leafs chances to win.  He can?t be trusted. 
 

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