Report: Isles have no interest in Komisarek

[princedpw]

Since with this 2-page thread we've now readily established that proclaiming "team X is not interested in player Y" counts as legitimate August news, I have another:  The Colorado Avalanche are definitely not interested in Jason Blake ... at least that is what **all** of my sources are telling me. 

 

[Tigger]

Florida, knowingly signing Jovanoski to a 4 year pact on a +35 deal the way they did may be a better example of the 'almost anything is possible' notion, something I was trying to get at with the trade I mentioned but apparently I wasn't clear enough when I said that I didn't think it was directly comparable and that it was pretty unlikely to happen.

Jovanovski is also a guy coming off a year where he played 20 minutes a night. I'm not looking to kick around whether or not "almost anything is possible" but rather that nothing I've seen would indicate that a poor team is willing to pay big money to players who might not make their teams. If they were, Burke could find a place for Jeff Finger right now.

Rolston may be a good example of a cap floor deal but why wouldn't Komisarek play?

Same reason he might not here. He didn't really cement himself as a NHL defenseman these last two years.

Jovanoski is a bigger risk to me, coming off a significant head injury ( 50 games last year ) and showing signs of real wear and tear aside from that while being less effective and productive. Committing 4 years +35 to him just seemed ridiculous.

I think Komi could be a bottom pairing dman for some teams, I don't think it's very likely that he won't play and like I said before, a cap floor friendly contract on his last two years might be attractive and wouldn't cost much in a trade. I guess we'll have to see what he does this year to really know one way or the other.

 

[Kin]

I am not saying that Burke can find a trading partner for Komi, however, just because Komi may not crack the top 6 d for Toronto doesn't mean he couldn't on a team like the Islanders.

I'd buy that if I hadn't actually seen last year's defense with my own eyes. The Leafs last year had ample opportunity for anyone to cement their status in the line-up.

 

[Kin]

Jovanoski is a bigger risk to me, coming off a significant head injury ( 50 games last year ) and showing signs of real wear and tear aside from that while being less effective and productive. Committing 4 years +35 to him just seemed ridiculous.

It's not a contract I'd sign but only in terms of length. That said, the bigger risk is always going to be the guy who, even if he's healthy, might not be in your line-up. Jovo doesn't have that stigma right now.

I think Komi could be a bottom pairing dman for some teams, I don't think it's very likely that he won't play and like I said before, a cap floor friendly contract on his last two years might be attractive and wouldn't cost much in a trade. I guess we'll have to see what he does this year to really know one way or the other.

I think it'd be pretty tough to make the case that there's any team out there who couldn't find a player for their bottom pairing who's A) as good and B) cheaper.

Like I said, if what you were saying was true there'd be a market for Jeff Finger.

 

[bustaheims]

Like I said, if what you were saying was true there'd be a market for Jeff Finger.

Sadly, there's probably a better market out there for Finger than there is for Komisarek, being that Finger's only a 1 season commitment and all.

 

[Tigger]

Jovanoski is a bigger risk to me, coming off a significant head injury ( 50 games last year ) and showing signs of real wear and tear aside from that while being less effective and productive. Committing 4 years +35 to him just seemed ridiculous.

It's not a contract I'd sign but only in terms of length. That said, the bigger risk is always going to be the guy who, even if he's healthy, might not be in your line-up. Jovo doesn't have that stigma right now.

I think Komi could be a bottom pairing dman for some teams, I don't think it's very likely that he won't play and like I said before, a cap floor friendly contract on his last two years might be attractive and wouldn't cost much in a trade. I guess we'll have to see what he does this year to really know one way or the other.

I think it'd be pretty tough to make the case that there's any team out there who couldn't find a player for their bottom pairing who's A) as good and B) cheaper.

Like I said, if what you were saying was true there'd be a market for Jeff Finger.

Again, I guess we'll see at the end of the year. Komi played 75 games last year, granted in a limited way but I don't think that's the end of him, Finger has been abysmal in the AHL, if Komi played the whole year in the A and was hurt as much as him and sucked as bad at that level I might agree.

 

[Kin]

Like I said, if what you were saying was true there'd be a market for Jeff Finger.

Sadly, there's probably a better market out there for Finger than there is for Komisarek, being that Finger's only a 1 season commitment and all.

Especially with the Islanders. I mean, the Islanders aren't like other teams who are near the floor because they're broke and don't want to pay anyone. By most accounts they've been throwing multiple big money FA offers around but just can't find anyone who'll take their money.

So if I'm Garth Snow I'd only be willing to take on bad one year deals so I can continue trying to sign people who'll actually be able to help the team.

 

[moon111]

Why would the Islanders be on Komi's list of teams he'd accept a trade to?  This will never happen.

 

[bustaheims]

Why would the Islanders be on Komi's list of teams he'd accept a trade to?  This will never happen.

Because he's from Long Island.

 

[maplesyrup]

Why would the Islanders be on Komi's list of teams he'd accept a trade to?  This will never happen.

Because he's from Long Island.

I'm not 100% that means much. For example, I'm guessing there's a whack of Ontario born and/or residing players with NTCs who don't have the Leafs on their list of teams they'd accept a trade to.

 

[bustaheims]

I'm not 100% that means much. For example, I'm guessing there's a whack of Ontario born and/or residing players with NTCs who don't have the Leafs on their list of teams they'd accept a trade to.

Well, Ontario is a much bigger place than Long Island. Heck, Long Island is barely half the size of GTA - and, I doubt there are many GTA born players that have a list of teams they'll accept a trade to that doesn't include the Leafs.

EDIT: Also, it's worth pointing out that, when he signed with the Leafs, the word was he was down to deciding between two teams - the Leafs and the Islanders. So, being that it would appear that the Islanders were his 2nd choice when he was a free agent . . .

 

[maplesyrup]

I'm not 100% that means much. For example, I'm guessing there's a whack of Ontario born and/or residing players with NTCs who don't have the Leafs on their list of teams they'd accept a trade to.

Well, Ontario is a much bigger place than Long Island. Heck, Long Island is barely half the size of GTA - and, I doubt there are many GTA born players that have a list of teams they'll accept a trade to that doesn't include the Leafs.

I don't know. It seems awfully Eklund-minded to me to just assume players always have their hands up to play for their home town, province, or state.

 

[bustaheims]

I don't know. It seems awfully Eklund-minded to me to just assume players always have their hands up to play for their home town, province, or state.

State and province, I'd agree with you, but, town . . . outside of the few players who hate the area they grew up in, I doubt you'd find many players who would flat out refuse to play at home by blocking a trade, etc.

I think the issue is more on the other end - I don't think too many teams are all that concerned with bringing hometown players into the organization.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I don't know. It seems awfully Eklund-minded to me to just assume players always have their hands up to play for their home town, province, or state.

State and province, I'd agree with you, but, town . . . outside of the few players who hate the area they grew up in, I doubt you'd find many players who would flat out refuse to play at home by blocking a trade, etc.

I think the issue is more on the other end - I don't think too many teams are all that concerned with bringing hometown players into the organization.

And if it's Komisarek's dream to play in Long Island, there might be very little time to fulfill.

 

[maplesyrup]

EDIT: Also, it's worth pointing out that, when he signed with the Leafs, the word was he was down to deciding between two teams - the Leafs and the Islanders. So, being that it would appear that the Islanders were his 2nd choice when he was a free agent . . .

The word, eh?  ???    Anyway, I'll assume you got it from credible sources and give you the benefit of the doubt. If true, (and again, I'm taking you for your word) I had no idea he was keen on the Island at one point. I guess that improves the chances of a deal somewhat but I'm not sure enough to make me think he's going to be dealt or anything like that.

 

[bustaheims]

The word, eh?  ???    Anyway, I'll assume you got it from credible sources and give you the benefit of the doubt. If true, (and again, I'm taking you for your word) I had no idea he was keen on the Island at one point. I guess that improves the chances of a deal somewhat but I'm not sure enough to make me think he's going to be dealt or anything like that.

Well, I think the issue is less where Komisarek wants to play, but, rather, who wants Komisarek on their team, and, right now, I don't think that list includes the Islanders (heck, I'm not sure there are many teams on that list, period).

 

[maplesyrup]

The word, eh?  ???    Anyway, I'll assume you got it from credible sources and give you the benefit of the doubt. If true, (and again, I'm taking you for your word) I had no idea he was keen on the Island at one point. I guess that improves the chances of a deal somewhat but I'm not sure enough to make me think he's going to be dealt or anything like that.

Well, I think the issue is less where Komisarek wants to play, but, rather, who wants Komisarek on their team, and, right now, I don't think that list includes the Islanders (heck, I'm not sure there are many teams on that list, period).

True enough. I just think we're stuck with him - period. All we can do his hope he has a better season.

 

[moon111]

Komisarek, Kadri, Gustavsson for Nino Niederreiter, Rick DiPietro and Islanders 1st.

Seriously, can't see any deal that makes sense.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Komisarek, Kadri, Gustavsson for Nino Niederreiter, Rick DiPietro and Islanders 1st.

Seriously, can't see any deal that makes sense.

Actually, the above names in a deal would have made sense, only if:

1)  Komisarek and DiPietro weren't so injury-prone, plus taking their contracts into consideration especially DiPietro's

2)  If the Lealfs had had an already steady backup in Scrivens or Rynnas, let's say, and could afford to part with Gustavvson (which they can't right now and won't even make sense to do so at the moment).

3)  If Kadri was a better potential forward than he's shown himself to be, then a trade that includes a young forward would make sense for the opposing team's needs.  No thanks, for now!

I couldn't see the Islanders wanting any of the Leafs right now, especially Komisarek.  Besides, a Niederreiter has shown good potential for the Isles to think that he could crack this year's line-up.  Would not want to give him up.

 

[Damian]

Komisarek, Kadri, Gustavsson for Nino Niederreiter, Rick DiPietro and Islanders 1st.


I couldn't see the Islanders wanting any of the Leafs right now, especially Komisarek.  Besides, a Niederreiter has shown good potential for the Isles to think that he could crack this year's line-up.  Would not want to give him up.

Your kidding right? Are we talking about the same Islanders? You cant see that Islanders team wanting any of our players? seriously? Really?