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Round 3: Vegas Golden Knights vs. Montreal Canadiens

Nik said:
Significantly Insignificant said:
I'm mostly just jealous, and I don't want to have to live with the narratives that will come out of it.  The Leafs rebuilt the way that they were supposed to, and they were beaten by a team that constructed the team the way the Leafs used to build theirs through trades and signings, and there is a possibility that the Habs will win the cup using that process.  It's just one more drop in the hapless history of the Leafs bucket.

For the narrative, I can see the stories and the exclamations of how Suzuki, Kotkaniemi and Caufield are better than Matthews, Marner, and Nylander because they show up in the playoffs and they have rings and they are sure to lead the Habs to a couple of more cups. 

The fact that they are local doesn't help.  I'm sure Bruins fans were ecstatic when they beat the Leafs, but we just didn't hear about it as much.

I have personal reasons why if the Habs were to win the cup, I'd be effectively fine with it(family members who are Habs fans, some who've had tough hurdles recently) but even beyond that the only thing I'd say is you really need to let that stuff go. You really don't need to take in media that delivers simplistic narratives like that.

Obviously being a Leafs fan has meant a lot of frustration but one of the things I've noticed in the last month or so is just how many other fanbases feel effectively the same. The Knicks this year won their first playoff game in 8 years and have gone almost 50 years without a title, The Detroit Lions have a hapless history without any real optimism in sight, The Pittsburgh Pirates have been consistently terrible for 25 years and so on.

I do get it but, really, if you don't like the narrative being presented by someone you don't have to give it much thought.

You could throw the Buffalo Bills, Buffalo Sabres, and the Cleveland Browns into that mix.  Up until recently the Cubs were known as the lovable losers for good reason. 

I understand the advice you are giving, and I wish that I was good at letting things go.  It's just that this is the area of sport that I struggle the most with.  I have what used to be called Asperger's syndrome.  Now it just means that I am on the autistic spectrum.  My super power is that I was born without a filter for my emotions, and that I want everything to be black or white.  Of course I live in a world that is one giant shade of grey.

I enjoy watching sports.  I love to see the plays that people make as they unfold at this unnatural speed to culminate in an achievement.  I think of the Lemieux goal against Boston when he deked out Ray Bourque, or Carter hitting the home run to win the world series, or the Leonard shot that bounced 4 times.  These are awesome things to witness as they unfold before you.

For me, a game boils down to wins and loses, and then from there I try and make sense of it.  What sets me off is when people are hypocritical or completely biased in their breakdowns of how they see something taking place, because I strive to push things into a black or white category.  So a fan base that complains about penalties that aren't called when they lose, only to cheer on a team that wins by playing that style seems wrong to me.  If you didn't like the fact that you lost when a team beat you because the refs didn't call the penalties, then you really shouldn't take pride in the fact that the team that you cheer for now wins by playing that style.  That's the sort thing that really irks me.  I understand that the whole basis of sports talk radio is built on hypocrisy and biased "takes", so I try and stay clear of it.  It's just in todays day and age it's really hard to shut it all out.

Like I really dislike Jack Edwards.  I really don't go looking for information on him.  If I never hear another word from him my life would be just dandy, but inevitably, if the Leafs play the Bruins, someway, somehow, I will be exposed to one of his tweets, and it will make my eye twitch.  I get that is the whole reason that he is doing it, which is why I think it is wrong, because why do you want to make someone angry?  I hate when I am angry, because of that whole no filter thing, so I avoid getting angry like I am Bruce Banner.  I go out of my way to try and decompress situations, and here are these people that will just openly lob grenades into fanbases just to watch the world burn. 
 
Tied 2-2 with under 10 left

I don?t have faith in the Leafs core to do anything at this point
 
If anything, though, this makes me feel a bit better about the Leafs.  They just had the misfortune of playing the cup final team in the first round, and (while this requires some serious Butterfly Effect rationale) if Tavares doesn't get injured in game #1, they're probably in this position right now.
 
It really doesn?t make me feel better.  They had them on the ropes and couldn?t finish. There are just too many things like the David Ayers game, the Vancouver COVID game and the lack of production in elimination games that I just don?t trust anything about this team anymore.  I don?t see how you change the lineup to suddenly produce.  This has just made me even more dejected on this roster.

Good for Montreal though.  They showed up after Game 4 and have earned their Cup berth.  The Leafs on the other hand can?t be bothered to start playoff games
 
Well I guess on further thought, I have to give the Habs credit, because if the situation was reversed I would be pretty excited.  They made it to the finals.

 
I really have no problem with Montreal getting through. Nor do I have a problem with Hab fans ribbing me because I cheer for the Leafs. It's been an endless cycle the last 40 years of my life and it generally rolls off my back.

Personally I'd much rather the Canadiens win the cup than any of the teams left. It's not that I like the Habs. I just like them more than the Lightning and Islanders.
 
louisstamos said:
If anything, though, this makes me feel a bit better about the Leafs.  They just had the misfortune of playing the cup final team in the first round, and (while this requires some serious Butterfly Effect rationale) if Tavares doesn't get injured in game #1, they're probably in this position right now.

Doesn't make me feel better at all, we were up 3-1, all we had to do was win one stinking game, one! And we choked.
 
I think some credit has to go to the Canadiens for how they play. Their deployment is extremely even so every forward is hella fresh and forechecks hard all over the ice, which gets them the puck in opportune moments (counter attacks). Price playing really well only helps that cause.

Danault's line (and Price) has shut down pretty much every other top line they've faced. By the underlying numbers, the Matthews' line did just about everything but score.

Toronto beat Montreal more times than Winnipeg and Vegas did combined. No Montreal player has more goals than William Nylander going into the Cup final. Hockey is weird.
 
Good on Montreal.  Taking advantage of their opportunity and running with it. 

I'm in no need of feeling jealousy or hatred towards the Habs at this point.  Instead, I'm re-directing my frustration and annoyance squarely on the Leafs, who completely botched things up.
 
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