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Rumour: Komisarek asks for a trade

bustaheims said:
Nik Gida said:
True but if it were this year's first? Unlikely, I agree but it'd be a heck of an interesting risk.

Yeah. I mean, I certainly see the appeal, but I don't think MLSE would be all that happy about throwing that much money away on a player who won't play a single game for the team, and, well, as crazy as the Islanders are, they won't be moving that pick.

This is the same company that gave Alonzo Mourning 11m not to show up.

Why not spend 24m on an amnesty buyout for a first round pick?

It will never happen but I'd do it. I didn't take into consideration, as Bustaheims pointed out, if DiPietro got hurt before the end of the year but there's also a amnesty buyout in 2014.

 
dappleganger said:
bustaheims said:
Nik Gida said:
True but if it were this year's first? Unlikely, I agree but it'd be a heck of an interesting risk.

Yeah. I mean, I certainly see the appeal, but I don't think MLSE would be all that happy about throwing that much money away on a player who won't play a single game for the team, and, well, as crazy as the Islanders are, they won't be moving that pick.

This is the same company that gave Alonzo Mourning 11m not to show up.

Why not spend 24m on an amnesty buyout for a first round pick?

It will never happen but I'd do it. I didn't take into consideration, as Bustaheims pointed out, if DiPietro got hurt before the end of the year but there's also a amnesty buyout in 2014.

If this were the plan, the team would simply sit DiPietro and wouldn't play him after he passes his physical to validate the trade.
 
so basically everything went downhill for komi with that ridiculous eye injury...he was in the lineup fairly regularly until then no?
 
sneakyray said:
so basically everything went downhill for komi with that ridiculous eye injury...he was in the lineup fairly regularly until then no?

4 games only but yeah he was getting a look and wasn't hurting the team.  He never seemed to draw back into the lineup after that freak injury.
 
hockeyfan1 said:
According to TSN, the Leafs are expected to buy out Komisarek's contract.

Was the amount over 1M going to count against the cap or something?

I get letting a player find a place to play in the NHL, but if the salary wasn't going to hinder the Leafs in any way I'm not sure why we'd waste a buyout on him.

Komi and Finger must go down as the worst overpayments in Leafs UFA history. Terrible contracts.
 
Chev-boyar-sky said:
hockeyfan1 said:
According to TSN, the Leafs are expected to buy out Komisarek's contract.

Was the amount over 1M going to count against the cap or something?

I get letting a player find a place to play in the NHL, but if the salary wasn't going to hinder the Leafs in any way I'm not sure why we'd waste a buyout on him.

Komi and Finger must go down as the worst overpayments in Leafs UFA history. Terrible contracts.
Ugh, Jeff Finger.

One of the worst things about that signings was Finger being surprised the Leafs paid him that much. When the player himself expresses that he couldn't believe the Leafs offered him such a contract, you know you have a problem.

"I was completely surprised, to be honest. It is twice as much as I ever managed making."
 
KoHo said:
Chev-boyar-sky said:
hockeyfan1 said:
According to TSN, the Leafs are expected to buy out Komisarek's contract.

Was the amount over 1M going to count against the cap or something?

I get letting a player find a place to play in the NHL, but if the salary wasn't going to hinder the Leafs in any way I'm not sure why we'd waste a buyout on him.

Komi and Finger must go down as the worst overpayments in Leafs UFA history. Terrible contracts.
Ugh, Jeff Finger.

One of the worst things about that signings was Finger being surprised the Leafs paid him that much. When the player himself expresses that he couldn't believe the Leafs offered him such a contract, you know you have a problem.

"I was completely surprised, to be honest. It is twice as much as I ever managed making."

The sad thing is that it's not even the most messed up part about it.

Rumour had it that the contract was meant for another UFA D-man on the same team as Finger, but the Leafs mixed the two players up. Kurt Sauer was the other D-man IIRC.
 
Snoop Lion said:
KoHo said:
Chev-boyar-sky said:
hockeyfan1 said:
According to TSN, the Leafs are expected to buy out Komisarek's contract.

Was the amount over 1M going to count against the cap or something?

I get letting a player find a place to play in the NHL, but if the salary wasn't going to hinder the Leafs in any way I'm not sure why we'd waste a buyout on him.

Komi and Finger must go down as the worst overpayments in Leafs UFA history. Terrible contracts.
Ugh, Jeff Finger.

One of the worst things about that signings was Finger being surprised the Leafs paid him that much. When the player himself expresses that he couldn't believe the Leafs offered him such a contract, you know you have a problem.

"I was completely surprised, to be honest. It is twice as much as I ever managed making."

The sad thing is that it's not even the most messed up part about it.

Rumour had it that the contract was meant for another UFA D-man on the same team as Finger, but the Leafs mixed the two players up. Kurt Sauer was the other D-man IIRC.

I think people made that up.
 
Snoop Lion said:
The sad thing is that it's not even the most messed up part about it.

Rumour had it that the contract was meant for another UFA D-man on the same team as Finger, but the Leafs mixed the two players up. Kurt Sauer was the other D-man IIRC.

That was the sort of thing that got tossed around as a joke after the deal got made. It doesn't really make sense if you think about it.
 
Chev-boyar-sky said:
hockeyfan1 said:
According to TSN, the Leafs are expected to buy out Komisarek's contract.

Was the amount over 1M going to count against the cap or something?

I get letting a player find a place to play in the NHL, but if the salary wasn't going to hinder the Leafs in any way I'm not sure why we'd waste a buyout on him.

Komi and Finger must go down as the worst overpayments in Leafs UFA history. Terrible contracts.

Here is the breakdown:
http://www.capgeek.com/buyout-calculator/?player_id=72:
 
Nik the Trik said:
Snoop Lion said:
The sad thing is that it's not even the most messed up part about it.

Rumour had it that the contract was meant for another UFA D-man on the same team as Finger, but the Leafs mixed the two players up. Kurt Sauer was the other D-man IIRC.

That was the sort of thing that got tossed around as a joke after the deal got made. It doesn't really make sense if you think about it.

True, but there was some digging done by a few people who found most of the facts that Wilson and Fletcher stated about why Finger was so high on their list were actually attributable to Sauer.

http://www.faceoff-factor.com/7nhl/1845/did-the-leafs-sign-the-wrong-player

I mean it's almost impossible to mix up a signing like that but boy it sure looks like it might have been the case.
 
I can't confirm that it was true but the story was that the Leafs mixed up his stats with another D-man on his team. I tended to believe it because the comments the Leafs were making about Finger were completely opposite of the type of player that he was, and actually described Sauer to a T.

Corn Flake said:
True, but there was some digging done by a few people who found most of the facts that Wilson and Fletcher stated about why Finger was so high on their list were actually attributable to Sauer.

http://www.faceoff-factor.com/7nhl/1845/did-the-leafs-sign-the-wrong-player

I mean it's almost impossible to mix up a signing like that but boy it sure looks like it might have been the case.

Yeah, that was the story.
 
Corn Flake said:
Nik the Trik said:
Snoop Lion said:
The sad thing is that it's not even the most messed up part about it.

Rumour had it that the contract was meant for another UFA D-man on the same team as Finger, but the Leafs mixed the two players up. Kurt Sauer was the other D-man IIRC.

That was the sort of thing that got tossed around as a joke after the deal got made. It doesn't really make sense if you think about it.

True, but there was some digging done by a few people who found most of the facts that Wilson and Fletcher stated about why Finger was so high on their list were actually attributable to Sauer.

http://www.faceoff-factor.com/7nhl/1845/did-the-leafs-sign-the-wrong-player

I mean it's almost impossible to mix up a signing like that but boy it sure looks like it might have been the case.

Yeah, I mean, I don't think there's much to dispute that the Leafs severely over-valued Finger I just don't know how much that points to the idea that the offer was intended for Sauer. I mean, leaving aside the logistics of it for a second, in that article what Wilson says isn't attributable to Finger but it's not attributable to Sauer either. The offer didn't make sense for Finger but it didn't make sense for Sauer either(as the article notes, he didn't get a comparable offer anywhere near that and was coming off a pretty so-so season where he only played 54 games and did get less TOI than Finger). The Fletcher stuff doesn't look good but that sounds like just regular GM nonsense.
 
Chev-boyar-sky said:
hockeyfan1 said:
According to TSN, the Leafs are expected to buy out Komisarek's contract.

Was the amount over 1M going to count against the cap or something?

I get letting a player find a place to play in the NHL, but if the salary wasn't going to hinder the Leafs in any way I'm not sure why we'd waste a buyout on him.

Komi and Finger must go down as the worst overpayments in Leafs UFA history. Terrible contracts.

I agree with you on this 100%.

dappleganger said:
One trade I'd do: Komisarek to the Islanders for DiPietro and a first.

Rats, I never read this thread before today and thought that I came up with a brilliant and unique concept when on June 15th I wrote:

Britishbulldog said:
The Leafs could bury Komisarek for 1 final year and STILL sign Clarkson, trade for Stewart, Bieska and Gudbranson (or re-sign Gunnarsson) with almost $3 MIL in cap space.  The players I re-signed I am pretty sure are within $0.5 MIL + or -.

One step further would be helping NYI's ownership by taking Dipietro's horrible contract in a trade like Dipietro and NYIs 2014 1st for Komisarek.  That would allow an additional $2 MIL forward to be signed  leaving $4 MIL in cap space.

Like I stated above, keeping $2 MIL of Komisarek's salary on the books by burying him would still allow $7.5 - $8.0 MIL AAV salary to sign 2 of Clarkson (to replace Frattin),  Clowe or Stewart; trade for Bieska $4.6 MIL in a buyout/trade deal as well as add Gudbranson or re-sign Gunnarsson.

That means the Leafs could keep up to $2 MIL of Komisarek's salary for next season in a trade for Dipietro and NYI's 1st pick and still have space to do a lot.
 
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