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cw said:
Stickytape said:
Sorta sucks that Boston lost, too, but it's early yet.  No matter what, though, that last game of the season against the Habs will be one to watch.

Two more sets of back-to-back games coming up, too.

I'll probably curse them by saying it but the Leafs are only 5 pts behind Boston and have a one game advantage on the first tiebreaker: ROWs.

If they have to face the Bruins, giving Carlyle home ice for last change might help some.

If I cursed them by saying it, so be it. I felt I had to say something because the notion that the Leafs would be within some sort of striking distance of beating the Bruins in the standings this late in the season seemed rather incredible when I think of my mindset at the start of this season.

Well, luckily belief in curses still does not make them true :)
 
Update of Busta's/cw's update with games tonight:

Number of points gained by Leafs or lost by an opponent to eliminate them from being able to pass the Leafs:

Florida
Carolina
Tampa - 1
Buffalo - 1
Philly - 1
New Jersey - 3
Winnipeg - 6
================= playoff team cut line
Washington - 10
NYI - 9
NYR - 10
Ottawa - 12


Buffalo beat Tampa 3-1 to take the Leafs out of reach.

Important games tomorrow:

Ottawa @ Boston
New Jersey @ Toronto
Philadelphia @ Montreal

The Leafs could eliminate Philly, New Jersey and Buffalo with a win tomorrow night.
 
L K said:
Update of Busta's/cw's update with games tonight:

Number of points gained by Leafs or lost by an opponent to eliminate them from being able to pass the Leafs:

Florida
Carolina
Tampa - 1
Buffalo - 1
Philly - 1
New Jersey - 3
Winnipeg - 6
================= playoff team cut line
Washington - 10
NYI - 9
NYR - 10
Ottawa - 12


Buffalo beat Tampa 3-1 to take the Leafs out of reach.

Important games tomorrow:

Ottawa @ Boston
New Jersey @ Toronto
Philadelphia @ Montreal

The Leafs could eliminate Philly, New Jersey and Buffalo with a win tomorrow night.

If the Leafs beat the Devils and then the Caps in their next game and the Jets lose in regulation to Tampa Bay, the Leafs would clinch a playoff berth Tuesday. That's how close they are to sealing it.
 
cw said:
If the Leafs beat the Devils and then the Caps in their next game and the Jets lose in regulation to Tampa Bay, the Leafs would clinch a playoff berth Tuesday. That's how close they are to sealing it.

Reading that just gave me a shiver.

*squeeeeee*
 
Number of points gained by Leafs or lost by an opponent to eliminate them from being able to pass the Leafs:

Florida
Carolina
Tampa
Buffalo
Philly
New Jersey
Winnipeg - 4
================= playoff team cut line
NYI - 7
NYR - 7
Washington - 8
Ottawa - 10


Leafs clinch the tie-breaker against the Rags with tonight's regulation win. A win of any kind over the Islanders on Thursday would give the Leafs the tie-break there as well.
 
Update of Busta's/cw's/LK's update with game tonight:

Number of points gained by Leafs or lost by an opponent to eliminate them from being able to pass the Leafs:

Florida
Carolina
Tampa
Buffalo
Philly
New Jersey
Winnipeg - 4
================= playoff team cut line
Washington - 8
NYI - 7
NYR - 8
Ottawa - 10


The Leafs eliminate Philly, New Jersey and Buffalo from catching them.

That was fun to post.  :)
 
So 4 points back of the div lead and if we beat the Caps tomorrow night and the Pens beat the Habs Wed night we close that to 2 points with 5 to play.  The Bruins also play the Sabres Wed night and if they win were 3 back of the div lead and or if they lose we are one back of the Bruins and 2 of the Habs.  Anything can happen right?
 
leafplasma said:
So 4 points back of the div lead and if we beat the Caps tomorrow night and the Pens beat the Habs Wed night we close that to 2 points with 5 to play.  The Bruins also play the Sabres Wed night and if they win were 3 back of the div lead and or if they lose we are one back of the Bruins and 2 of the Habs.  Anything can happen right?

Even if we don't win the division, if the Habs continue to struggle it'll mean Boston will eventually pass them and set up a Leafs-Montreal first round. I think I'd actually prefer that to winning the Northeast.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
leafplasma said:
So 4 points back of the div lead and if we beat the Caps tomorrow night and the Pens beat the Habs Wed night we close that to 2 points with 5 to play.  The Bruins also play the Sabres Wed night and if they win were 3 back of the div lead and or if they lose we are one back of the Bruins and 2 of the Habs.  Anything can happen right?

Even if we don't win the division, if the Habs continue to struggle it'll mean Boston will eventually pass them and set up a Leafs-Montreal first round. I think I'd actually prefer that to winning the Northeast.

Maybe its just because I was at that 7-4 travesty early in the year, but does anyone else get the heebie-jeebies about the idea of winning the division and playing the Islanders in the first round?
 
The Red Polar Bear said:
CarltonTheBear said:
leafplasma said:
So 4 points back of the div lead and if we beat the Caps tomorrow night and the Pens beat the Habs Wed night we close that to 2 points with 5 to play.  The Bruins also play the Sabres Wed night and if they win were 3 back of the div lead and or if they lose we are one back of the Bruins and 2 of the Habs.  Anything can happen right?

Even if we don't win the division, if the Habs continue to struggle it'll mean Boston will eventually pass them and set up a Leafs-Montreal first round. I think I'd actually prefer that to winning the Northeast.

Maybe its just because I was at that 7-4 travesty early in the year, but does anyone else get the heebie-jeebies about the idea of winning the division and playing the Islanders in the first round?

The Bruins are the only team that gives me the heebie-jeebies. Please....not the Bruins.
 
The Red Polar Bear said:
CarltonTheBear said:
leafplasma said:
So 4 points back of the div lead and if we beat the Caps tomorrow night and the Pens beat the Habs Wed night we close that to 2 points with 5 to play.  The Bruins also play the Sabres Wed night and if they win were 3 back of the div lead and or if they lose we are one back of the Bruins and 2 of the Habs.  Anything can happen right?

Even if we don't win the division, if the Habs continue to struggle it'll mean Boston will eventually pass them and set up a Leafs-Montreal first round. I think I'd actually prefer that to winning the Northeast.

Maybe its just because I was at that 7-4 travesty early in the year, but does anyone else get the heebie-jeebies about the idea of winning the division and playing the Islanders in the first round?

If we get 3rd I'd be a little more worried about the Rangers and Lundqvist. Tavares would scare me a little bit but with home-ice advantage Phaneuf would be out there every time he's on the ice.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
leafplasma said:
So 4 points back of the div lead and if we beat the Caps tomorrow night and the Pens beat the Habs Wed night we close that to 2 points with 5 to play.  The Bruins also play the Sabres Wed night and if they win were 3 back of the div lead and or if they lose we are one back of the Bruins and 2 of the Habs.  Anything can happen right?

Even if we don't win the division, if the Habs continue to struggle it'll mean Boston will eventually pass them and set up a Leafs-Montreal first round. I think I'd actually prefer that to winning the Northeast.

Point well taken but I think I am in the camp of finishing as high as possible.  Second spot in the conference guarantees us home ice advantage ahead of all but one team right straight through 3 rounds.  Then there is the huge confidence boost that something like accomplishing that would entail.
 
cw said:
Update of Busta's/cw's/LK's update with game tonight:

Number of points gained by Leafs or lost by an opponent to eliminate them from being able to pass the Leafs:

Florida
Carolina
Tampa
Buffalo
Philly
New Jersey
Winnipeg - 4
================= playoff team cut line
Washington - 8
NYI - 7
NYR - 8
Ottawa - 10


The Leafs eliminate Philly, New Jersey and Buffalo from catching them.

That was fun to post.  :)

An amendment to this:

Toronto clinched the tiebreaker with the Rangers last night because the best the Rangers can now do is match Toronto's 24 ROWs (regulation or overtime wins) and the Leafs won the series between the two teams 3-2 in points (the 2nd tiebreaker), so that magic number for the Rangers falls to 7.

Although not easy to expect against a hot Washington team, if the Leafs win and the Jets lose to Tampa in regulation, the Leafs will clinch a playoff berth tonight because that would gobble up the four magic numbers keeping any Jets hopes against the Leafs alive. Getting a point from the Caps tonight would clinch the head to head tiebreaker if they tie in ROWs and Winnipeg passes the Caps - so they have a little something extra to play for.

The Leafs did hit 100.0% probability of making the playoffs with their win last night on both these sites:
http://www.hockey-reference.com/friv/playoff_prob.cgi
http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html
But because the Leafs haven't mathematically clinched, another way to express it is: the chance the Leafs don't make the playoffs has fallen to less than 0.05% = extremely remote.
 
cw said:
The Leafs did hit 100.0% probability of making the playoffs with their win last night on both these sites:
http://www.hockey-reference.com/friv/playoff_prob.cgi
http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html
But because the Leafs haven't mathematically clinched, another way to express it is: the chance the Leafs don't make the playoffs has fallen to less than 0.05% = extremely remote.

Call me pedantic, but really the sites should say >99.95% not 100%.  100% is 100%.  Accuracy doesn't cost anymore than an approximation, however close.
 
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
cw said:
The Leafs did hit 100.0% probability of making the playoffs with their win last night on both these sites:
http://www.hockey-reference.com/friv/playoff_prob.cgi
http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html
But because the Leafs haven't mathematically clinched, another way to express it is: the chance the Leafs don't make the playoffs has fallen to less than 0.05% = extremely remote.

Call me pedantic, but really the sites should say >99.95% not 100%.  100% is 100%.  Accuracy doesn't cost anymore than an approximation, however close.

Agreed. It's misleading when they say 100.0%.
 
cw said:
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
cw said:
The Leafs did hit 100.0% probability of making the playoffs with their win last night on both these sites:
http://www.hockey-reference.com/friv/playoff_prob.cgi
http://www.sportsclubstats.com/NHL.html
But because the Leafs haven't mathematically clinched, another way to express it is: the chance the Leafs don't make the playoffs has fallen to less than 0.05% = extremely remote.

Call me pedantic, but really the sites should say >99.95% not 100%.  100% is 100%.  Accuracy doesn't cost anymore than an approximation, however close.

Agreed. It's misleading when they say 100.0%.

They have another status of "in" which really means 100%
 

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