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[LuncheonMeat]

So many first rounders traded already ... things could get crazy tomorrow ... some of these GMs seem to be really going for it. Can't see it being a bad thing for the Leafs.

Jokinen, Booth, Holzer maybe for fringe picks

Then see if they can pull in some real talent with Lupul, Polak, Bernier, Gardiner, Phaneuf, etc

There seem to be a lot of teams with a chance this year, so with all the moves made so far one would hope it will inspire a flurry of moves by other teams.

With regard to the Leafs' pick in the draft, it's hard to imagine anyone below passing them.  Just look at the goal differentials below the Leafs:

Columbus:  -34
Carolina:    -20
Toronto:    -19
Arizona:    -76
Edmonton: -65
Buffalo:      -89

Hopefully Carolina stays hot, and Columbus gets hot, and both start to pull away.  Honestly, I think Edmonton has a better chance of going on a run (they haven't been too bad lately) and passing the Leafs near the end.  Especially if Scrivens plays the way he did last night.

 

[Omallley]

So many first rounders traded already ... things could get crazy tomorrow ... some of these GMs seem to be really going for it. Can't see it being a bad thing for the Leafs.

Jokinen, Booth, Holzer maybe for fringe picks

Then see if they can pull in some real talent with Lupul, Polak, Bernier, Gardiner, Phaneuf, etc

Maybe I'm completely off base, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Panik go for a later round pick either.

 

[Joe S.]

But if all the players that have moved so far did anyone have significant term? Anything more than a year?

 

[Bullfrog]

Not really, other than the Wpg/Buf deal. But, that wasn't a playoff deal.

 

[Joe S.]

Well I think that'll be what prevents any of those leafs from being traded.

 

[Tigger]

So many first rounders traded already ... things could get crazy tomorrow ... some of these GMs seem to be really going for it. Can't see it being a bad thing for the Leafs.

Jokinen, Booth, Holzer maybe for fringe picks

Then see if they can pull in some real talent with Lupul, Polak, Bernier, Gardiner, Phaneuf, etc

Maybe I'm completely off base, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Panik go for a later round pick either.

busta and I were talking about him a little while back, he was picked off waivers so there's that issue plus he is probably worth more to the Leafs than whatever late round pick they could get.

 

[Joe S.]

Isn't there some rule that you can't trade a player you picked of waivers? Or you have to make him available on waivers or something like that?

 

[Kin]

Isn't there some rule that you can't trade a player you picked of waivers? Or you have to make him available on waivers or something like that?

I think it's just that you have to make him available to anyone else who claimed him while he was on waivers the first time. I don't know how many teams claimed Panik though.

 

[CarltonTheBear]

I don't see why we would even consider moving Panik really. The best we could get is probably a 3rd and the odds of a 3rd rounder becoming as good as Panik is pretty low. He's a cheap and young forward who has a bunch of tools to contribute on a 3rd line if not higher.

 

[LuncheonMeat]

I don't see why we would even consider moving Panik really. The best we could get is probably a 3rd and the odds of a 3rd rounder becoming as good as Panik is pretty low. He's a cheap and young forward who has a bunch of tools to contribute on a 3rd line if not higher.

6' 2", 210 pounds, being paid $735K/year, and turned 24 about 3 weeks ago.  And he can do this occasionally:

http://youtu.be/6Qa6hJsB3Z0

He even beat up Peter Holland

http://youtu.be/qdM459ddhns

 

[Redleaf]

I don't see why we would even consider moving Panik really. The best we could get is probably a 3rd and the odds of a 3rd rounder becoming as good as Panik is pretty low. He's a cheap and young forward who has a bunch of tools to contribute on a 3rd line if not higher.

Exactly.

 

[Kin]

I don't see why we would even consider moving Panik really. The best we could get is probably a 3rd and the odds of a 3rd rounder becoming as good as Panik is pretty low. He's a cheap and young forward who has a bunch of tools to contribute on a 3rd line if not higher.

Well, the argument would be the same, to some extent, as it was with Winnik or Santorelli. If you trade Panik for a 3rd, can you go out in the off-season and sign someone to provide more or less the same game who can then be flipped later on for more assets. Is Panik part of the team's long term plans? If not, how do you maximize his value to the rebuild?

I don't lean either way, personally. I don't know that it's set in stone that the best you could do is a 3rd but I also think he's someone you could sign to a reasonable contract, give some playing time to and actually see him become more valuable in the years to come.

 

[Kessel Run]

I don't see why we would even consider moving Panik really. The best we could get is probably a 3rd and the odds of a 3rd rounder becoming as good as Panik is pretty low. He's a cheap and young forward who has a bunch of tools to contribute on a 3rd line if not higher.

Well, the argument would be the same, to some extent, as it was with Winnik or Santorelli. If you trade Panik for a 3rd, can you go out in the off-season and sign someone to provide more or less the same game who can then be flipped later on for more assets. Is Panik part of the team's long term plans? If not, how do you maximize his value to the rebuild?

I don't lean either way, personally. I don't know that it's set in stone that the best you could do is a 3rd but I also think he's someone you could sign to a reasonable contract, give some playing time to and actually see him become more valuable in the years to come.

Exactly. He's only 24, he has room to grow.

 

[Heroic Shrimp]

I think we really need Madferret to come in here and tell us that Phaneuf could never get traded for a 1st round pick so that it will happen a minute or two later.

 

[Jolly good show chaps]

Arizona finally win though doubt we can pass them. Still playing for fourth worst record at present.

 

[moon111]

• McDavid is around 3.30 PPG when playing with Strome, he is 1.91 PPG without Strome.
• Strome is 2.65 PPG with McDavid, he is 1.61 PPG without McDavid.

Source: http://oilersnation.com/2015/2/8/how-good-is-dylan-strome

 

[Boston Leaf]

wow Arizona does have a pulse. Any shot they can go on a run and pass us? Keep wearing the throwbacks

 

[freer]

So it looks like either one will be a good pick us them

 

[Redleaf]

wow Arizona does have a pulse. Any shot they can go on a run and pass us? Keep wearing the throwbacks

Highly doubtful. This Leaf team, at least I my mind, finally appear to be getting Horacheck's system. I don't see them sitting inside the top five come draft day. I'm pretty sure Arizona will find a way.

 

[pmrules]

So say we get one of Marner or Strome.  Would you play them one more year in junior or bring them up to the Leafs?  They can't play for the Marlies.  Are these two kids ready for prime time?