The "Mr. T" Man of the Match Thread, 2017–18 PLAYOFFS Edition
- Thread starter ZBBM
- Start date
Kin
New member
Frank E said:
The point is people didn't like the trade at the time but it yielded what look to be some pretty valuable assets. And particularly while trading Kessel weakened the team in the short term getting tradable assets for him let the team address specific areas of need(namely goaltending) later on.
As well as, you know, Matthews and such.
ZBBM
Active member
Nik the Trik said:
Excuse me ... to refresh your memory, it was actually *me personally willing the outcome* of the lottery that year that delivered Matthews to us:
http://www.tmlfans.ca/community/index.php?topic=3783.msg259268#msg259268
No need for thanks, I was happy to do it for the good of the community.
ZBBM
Active member
Game #51: TOR v DAL: Leafs 4-1. MotM: McElhinney 7/1. HM: Gardiner 2/4. Others: Kadri 0/3, Nylander 0/2.
Game #52: NYI v TOR: Leafs 5-0. MotM: Dermott 14/0. HM: Andersen 0/6. Others: Holl 0/5, Kapanen 1/3, Matthews 0/1.
Game #53: TOR v NYR: Leafs 4-0. MotM: McElhinney 9/0 (unanimous). HM: Holl 0/3. Others: Kadri 0/2, Hyman 0/1, Borgman 0/1, Dermott 0/1, van Riemsdyk 0/1.
Game #54: TOR v BOS: Bruins 4-1. MotM: Nylander 2/1. HM: Marner 1/1. Others: Rielly 0/1, Kadri 0/1, Komarov 0/1.
Game #55: ANA v TOR: Leafs 7-4. MotM: Nylander 11/3. HM: Gardiner 2/8. Others: Matthews 1/3.
Game #56: NSH v TOR: Leafs 3-2 SO. MotM: Andersen 13/0 (unanimous). HM: van Riemsdyk 0/7. Others: Kapanen 0/4, Brown 0/1.
Game #57: OTT v TOR:
Game #52: NYI v TOR: Leafs 5-0. MotM: Dermott 14/0. HM: Andersen 0/6. Others: Holl 0/5, Kapanen 1/3, Matthews 0/1.
Game #53: TOR v NYR: Leafs 4-0. MotM: McElhinney 9/0 (unanimous). HM: Holl 0/3. Others: Kadri 0/2, Hyman 0/1, Borgman 0/1, Dermott 0/1, van Riemsdyk 0/1.
Game #54: TOR v BOS: Bruins 4-1. MotM: Nylander 2/1. HM: Marner 1/1. Others: Rielly 0/1, Kadri 0/1, Komarov 0/1.
Game #55: ANA v TOR: Leafs 7-4. MotM: Nylander 11/3. HM: Gardiner 2/8. Others: Matthews 1/3.
Game #56: NSH v TOR: Leafs 3-2 SO. MotM: Andersen 13/0 (unanimous). HM: van Riemsdyk 0/7. Others: Kapanen 0/4, Brown 0/1.
Game #57: OTT v TOR:
| MotM/Win | MotM/Loss | HonMen | Accolades | Times Voted | Points | |
| Forwards | ||||||
| 42 Tyler Bozak | 1 | 0 | 3 | 4 | 6 | 6 |
| 12 Connor Brown | 0 | 0 | 3 | 3 | 12 | 3 |
| 23 Eric Fehr | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 |
| 33 Frederick Gauthier | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 |
| 11 Zach Hyman | 1 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 13 | 5 |
| 32 Josh Leivo | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 1 |
| 43 Nazem Kadri | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 19 | 4 |
| 24 Kasperi Kapanen | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 |
| 47 Leo Komarov | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 5 | 1 |
| 12 Patrick Marleau | 1 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 11 | 5 |
| 16 Mitch Marner | 3 | 2 | 4 | 9 | 17 | 17 |
| 15 Matt Martin | 0 | 2 | 1 | 3 | 3 | 5 |
| 34 Auston Matthews | 4 | 4 | 6 | 14 | 25 | 26 |
| 28 Dominic Moore | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 6 | 1 |
| 29 William Nylander | 3 | 4 | 5 | 12 | 26 | 22 |
| 26 Nikita Soshnikov | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 25 James van Riemsdyk | 1 | 1 | 4 | 6 | 10 | 9 |
| Defensemen | ||||||
| 55 Andreas Borgman | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 6 | 4 |
| 8 Connor Carrick | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 0 |
| 23 Travis Dermott | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 4 | 6 |
| 51 Jake Gardiner | 2 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 7 | 15 |
| 2 Ron Hainsey | 0 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 9 | 4 |
| 3 Justin Holl | 0 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 2 |
| 52 Martin Marincin | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 46 Roman Polak | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 3 |
| 44 Morgan Rielly | 3 | 1 | 7 | 11 | 19 | 29 |
| 48 Calle Rosen | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| 22 Nikita Zaitsev | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 8 | 0 |
| Goalkeepers | ||||||
| 31 Frederik Andersen | 8 | 7 | 5 | 20 | 29 | 33.0 |
| 35 Curtis McElhinney | 4 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 5 | 10.0 |
| 30 Calvin Pickard | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0.0 |
Frank E
Active member
Nik the Trik said:
I think the argument was, and I wasn't complaining about the deal much at the time, but the argument was that it wasn't the a great deal, and that there was no big hurry. Perhaps though, it was the best they could muster. I'm still not sure that it was necessary at that point, but again, I didn't much complain.
As it turns out, Kessel is as valuable, and has been as valuable, as we thought he was. And the Leafs retained salary, let's not forget.
The reason I was questioning the post was because the rationale was about acquiring assets...well, what's Kessel worth today? Could we have traded Reilly and Gardiner instead? Maybe Kadri?
The Leafs won a lottery, so let's not think that this was all a planned thing. Some deals they'll win, some they'll lose...but I don't think they won the Kessel deal.
Having said that, I think you and I were on the same page about trading Kadri, JVR, and Bozak some time ago. And I still think that they should have.
I'm all for accumulating assets, but I just don't think that the Kessel deal was very good...not terrible, just not a great move. I think that winning the lottery makes it defensible to some, but we all know that it was a lottery situation that made him a Leaf.
ZBBM
Active member
Highlander
Active member
Marner
Kadri
Kadri