The Official Complaint Thread!

[Number 5]

Oh I know. I suppose I couls just give them 8300 pennies each time. Or do people get charged for using those these days too?

There are actually limits on how many of certain types of coins you can use in a single transaction.

Yep....it's part of the Currency Act. a business can choose to accept the overages, but they can indeed refuse to accept it. If I recall, there was a guy in Quebec a while back who tried to pay his taxes with a quarter million pennies, and was charged.

http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-52/page-1.html?term=payment%20in%20coins#s-8.

Limitation

(2) A payment in coins referred to in subsection (1) is a legal tender for no more than the following amounts for the following denominations of coins:
(a) forty dollars if the denomination is two dollars or greater but does not exceed ten dollars;
(b) twenty-five dollars if the denomination is one dollar;
(c) ten dollars if the denomination is ten cents or greater but less than one dollar;
(d) five dollars if the denomination is five cents; and
(e) twenty-five cents if the denomination is one cent.

And according to the RCMP, any business can choose to accept whatever form of payment they want:
http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/count-contre/faq-eng.htm#legal)

There must be mutual consent between the retailer and the consumer as to the particular form of payment in order to conclude a transaction. It is the Bank's understanding of the general law in this area that a tender of bank notes as payment does not necessarily compel the party who is owed money to accept that form of payment. The form of payment which is mutually acceptable to the parties to a transaction appears to us to be essentially a matter of private agreement between those parties. For example, a provider of goods or services could insist on payment by credit card or cheque.

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What can I do if a retailer refuses to accept my $100 note? Can retailers legally refuse notes?

The method of payment (e.g. cash, debit or credit card) used in a transaction is a private agreement between the buyer and the seller. Each has the right to accept or refuse a bank note when accepting payment or receiving change.

We encourage retailers to use security features; this is more customer-friendly than refusing notes for counterfeiting concerns and it?s also a more effective protection against counterfeiting losses.

There are several reasons why a retailer may choose to refuse notes (e.g. security for 24-hour operations; maintaining float).

 

[bustaheims]

As much as I'd rather not turn this into the anti-Rob Ford thread, he does provide many of us with stuff to complain about. Here's some more:

http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/news/local/article/143023--city-won-t-revisit-public-health-nurse-issue

The decision means the city will not be getting $170, 000 from the Ontario government to hire two public health nurses. One of the nurses would have worked with newcomers on disease prevention and the other would have promoted health services in one of the city?s poor neighbourhoods.

Mayor Rob Ford had said he was concerned that the city would be responsible for the permanent positions if the funding from the province was ever cut.

The province was willing to foot the bill, but, concerns about having to provide future money to essential services like paying healthcare workers led to it being refused? Seriously?

 

[Number 5]

I know I'd be upset if someone said, "Let me buy you a car!", did so, made one payment, then left me holding the bag.

And you know that there were 42 voters on the issue, right? And that 21 of them also said no? Why is Ford the bad guy on this one?

 

[Derk]

I know I'd be upset if someone said, "Let me buy you a car!", did so, made one payment, then left me holding the bag.

Regarding this analogy, as long as you didn't sign anything, couldn't you just return the car?

Irrelevant to the conversation, I know.

Carry on.

 

[Number 5]

Poor example, I'll admit. 

 

[chestyleroux]

I know I'd be upset if someone said, "Let me buy you a car!", did so, made one payment, then left me holding the bag.

And you know that there were 42 voters on the issue, right? And that 21 of them also said no? Why is Ford the bad guy on this one?

The motion took your point into consideration:

Filion?s motion stated that the funding would cover the salaries and benefits of the two nurses and the positions would be eliminated if the funding was cut.

What I don't understand about Ford is he's preaching this entire gravy train bullcrap, and yet he paid $350k to hire consultants to read the city budget reports and come up with very stupid conclusions (cut the grass less, clear the paths less) that would have lowered the standard of living in the city.

 

[Damian]

I know I'd be upset if someone said, "Let me buy you a car!", did so, made one payment, then left me holding the bag.

And you know that there were 42 voters on the issue, right? And that 21 of them also said no? Why is Ford the bad guy on this one?

The motion took your point into consideration:

Filion?s motion stated that the funding would cover the salaries and benefits of the two nurses and the positions would be eliminated if the funding was cut.

What I don't understand about Ford is he's preaching this entire gravy train bullcrap, and yet he paid $350k to hire consultants to read the city budget reports and come up with very stupid conclusions (cut the grass less, clear the paths less) that would have lowered the standard of living in the city.

I would have done it for $150k

 

[chestyleroux]

The freaking city should do it! Don't they have accountants?!

 

[L K]

The freaking city should do it! Don't they have accountants?!

Yeah. Miller's gravy train accountants.  That's all the idiot keeps spouting is rhetoric with next to no action.  The nurse one was beyond stupid.  The province was also committed to the temporary status of the nurses and there are plenty of those short-term contracts in existence where the nurse does not get a guaranteed job...it happens with doctors too.  It's one of the things I am going to consider doing to start out when I finish school is do a series of 1-2 year locums in different rural communities to pay off my debts and save up to open up my practice in a larger centre.

 

[cw]

As much as I'd rather not turn this into the anti-Rob Ford thread, he does provide many of us with stuff to complain about. Here's some more:

http://www.citytv.com/toronto/citynews/news/local/article/143023--city-won-t-revisit-public-health-nurse-issue

The decision means the city will not be getting $170, 000 from the Ontario government to hire two public health nurses. One of the nurses would have worked with newcomers on disease prevention and the other would have promoted health services in one of the city?s poor neighbourhoods.

Mayor Rob Ford had said he was concerned that the city would be responsible for the permanent positions if the funding from the province was ever cut.

The province was willing to foot the bill, but, concerns about having to provide future money to essential services like paying healthcare workers led to it being refused? Seriously?

that's ok, he had more important things to consider (j/k)

City takes over debt-ridden Leafs practice facility
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1024909--city-takes-over-debt-ridden-leafs-practice-facility

 

[chestyleroux]

I can't complain too much about that. It would be a huge waste if they let it foreclose (it's a really nice place!), and they will very likely be selling it the arena to someone (albeit for 50 cents on the dollar).

 

[Leafaholic99]

People still use cash these days :S

Joking aside, I never use cash anywhere, unless they don't take debit/credit cards, its just way easier for me to swipe and pay, rather then pay with cash, plus I hate loose change with a passion. Also, I get air miles when I use my credit card.

 

[chestyleroux]

People still use cash these days :S

Joking aside, I never use cash anywhere, unless they don't take debit/credit cards, its just way easier for me to swipe and pay, rather then pay with cash, plus I hate loose change with a passion. Also, I get air miles when I use my credit card.

While there's nothing wrong with this philosophy, it requires quite a bit of discipline as it's incredibly easy to get into credit card debt by shunning cash altogether. I mix it up (cash for daily expenses, credit card for larger expenses) to keep myself in check.

 

[Madferret]

I keep forgetting to buy deodorant - mines down to the cheese grater with splotches of deodorant on it stage.

 

[TheMightyOdin]

People still use cash these days :S

Joking aside, I never use cash anywhere, unless they don't take debit/credit cards, its just way easier for me to swipe and pay, rather then pay with cash, plus I hate loose change with a passion. Also, I get air miles when I use my credit card.

But now the government can track you man. THE GOVERNMENT!

 

[maplesyrup]

People still use cash these days :S

Joking aside, I never use cash anywhere, unless they don't take debit/credit cards, its just way easier for me to swipe and pay, rather then pay with cash, plus I hate loose change with a passion. Also, I get air miles when I use my credit card.

But now the government can track you man. THE GOVERNMENT!

PHONE COPS!!!

 

[Bullfrog]

I'm too stupid to figure out Twitter.

 

[Damian]

I'm too stupid to figure out Twitter.

yeh... argh

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Being 7000 miles from my friends and family on my Birthday kinda sucks, the price of living in a warmer climate I guess.  My wife is doing her best to fill the void, which is nice, still, I miss home a bit.

 

[chestyleroux]

I'm too stupid to figure out Twitter.

#stupidbullfrog