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The Official Health and Fitness Thread

Sarge said:
Don't confuse saturated fats with trans fats. Saturated fats do not make you fat. We need them.well, I'm not sure big business wouldn't win out again over public heath a How much exactly? Well, I'm not that far along in my studies to know for sure but we don't need sugar - any of it. - That much I do know. Now, I haven't thrown a big enough grenade in my diet to avoid all sugar (it's next to impossible) but I do make an effort to avoid it where possible.

As far as taxing Mickey Dees is concerned, I'm not sure big business wouldn't win out again over public health. Especially when one could just choose to avoid them. One idea I suppose would be to offer substantial tax breaks to new establishments offering certified organic and sugar free selections, etc. but I'm not sure this would be a high priority for this government.

Edit: The purpose of course is to have good food out there... Cheap.
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I generally agree with you Sarge, but you're kinda putting words in people's mouths here. Corn Flake is talking about health in general, and you seem to be focusing on weight. (see your bolded part above.) I think most people understand that fats don't make you fat. Well, actually they can as they provide calories and if you overindulge in calories of any type, you'll get fat (on the inside especially.)

I also hope that you're basing your opinions on more than one source. There's such much controversy and disagreement about fats out there. I've read quite a bit (though I haven't watched the video you posted) and am probably more confused than ever. Some of what I've read comes from mainstream sources such as the Canadian Diabetes Association, Health Canada, Heart and Stroke, etc. and also some more controversial sources such as Dr. Mercola and Sears.

Most of them agree (and this is where I agree with you) that a low-glycemic diet is the solution.
 
http://lifehacker.com/5809331/what-sugar-actually-does-to-your-brain-and-body


As previously mentioned in the section about processed and unprocessed foods, fiber is very necessary in curbing sugar intake. It does what fructose can't do, and that's alert you that you've consumed calories and you don't need to eat anymore. Basically, fiber and fructose need to work together. Fiber is fructose's unattractive but brilliant friend. Fructose makes up for fiber's lack of sweetness while fiber makes up for fructose's uselessness.

So how do you eat fiber with your fructose? Don't eat processed foods. Get your fructose from fruit or other sources that contain built-in fiber.

 
Bullfrog said:
Sarge said:
Don't confuse saturated fats with trans fats. Saturated fats do not make you fat. We need them.well, I'm not sure big business wouldn't win out again over public heath a How much exactly? Well, I'm not that far along in my studies to know for sure but we don't need sugar - any of it. - That much I do know. Now, I haven't thrown a big enough grenade in my diet to avoid all sugar (it's next to impossible) but I do make an effort to avoid it where possible.

As far as taxing Mickey Dees is concerned, I'm not sure big business wouldn't win out again over public health. Especially when one could just choose to avoid them. One idea I suppose would be to offer substantial tax breaks to new establishments offering certified organic and sugar free selections, etc. but I'm not sure this would be a high priority for this government.

Edit: The purpose of course is to have good food out there... Cheap.
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I generally agree with you Sarge, but you're kinda putting words in people's mouths here. Corn Flake is talking about health in general, and you seem to be focusing on weight. (see your bolded part above.) I think most people understand that fats don't make you fat. Well, actually they can as they provide calories and if you overindulge in calories of any type, you'll get fat (on the inside especially.)

I also hope that you're basing your opinions on more than one source. There's such much controversy and disagreement about fats out there. I've read quite a bit (though I haven't watched the video you posted) and am probably more confused than ever. Some of what I've read comes from mainstream sources such as the Canadian Diabetes Association, Health Canada, Heart and Stroke, etc. and also some more controversial sources such as Dr. Mercola and Sears.

Most of them agree (and this is where I agree with you) that a low-glycemic diet is the solution.
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Well, that wasn't my intent. - Sorry CF if you saw it that way. Yeah, this has been kind of an obsession of mine of late and I'm doing a lot of reading on it. - It's far more than one source - no worries there.
 
Bender said:
http://lifehacker.com/5809331/what-sugar-actually-does-to-your-brain-and-body


As previously mentioned in the section about processed and unprocessed foods, fiber is very necessary in curbing sugar intake. It does what fructose can't do, and that's alert you that you've consumed calories and you don't need to eat anymore. Basically, fiber and fructose need to work together. Fiber is fructose's unattractive but brilliant friend. Fructose makes up for fiber's lack of sweetness while fiber makes up for fructose's uselessness.

So how do you eat fiber with your fructose? Don't eat processed foods. Get your fructose from fruit or other sources that contain built-in fiber.
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Awesome... thanks Bender. I think it's important folks know to stay away from refined sugars though... No matter how much fiber they have in their diet.
 
Sarge said:
Bender said:
http://lifehacker.com/5809331/what-sugar-actually-does-to-your-brain-and-body


As previously mentioned in the section about processed and unprocessed foods, fiber is very necessary in curbing sugar intake. It does what fructose can't do, and that's alert you that you've consumed calories and you don't need to eat anymore. Basically, fiber and fructose need to work together. Fiber is fructose's unattractive but brilliant friend. Fructose makes up for fiber's lack of sweetness while fiber makes up for fructose's uselessness.

So how do you eat fiber with your fructose? Don't eat processed foods. Get your fructose from fruit or other sources that contain built-in fiber.
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Awesome... thanks Bender. I think it's important folks know to stay away from refined sugars though... No matter how much fiber they have in their diet.
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That's true, but pretty much refined anything will kill you in the long run.

http://nutritiondata.self.com/foods-000011000000000000000-13.html?

Just look at some of these items listed as having low fructose: Enriched white flour?? Sausage and Biscuit?

Again, there's no reason to overconsume anything, but I think it's far harder to overconsume fruits than refined foods. Although, I definitely agree that in general the key to good health is dark, leafy greens. Any veggie with a deep colour is generally very good for you.
 
http://www.lef.org/news/LefDailyNews.htm?NewsID=12310&Section=Nutrition

Slow carbohydrates such as eggs, meat, legumes, lentils, broccoli and peas may affect a blood chemical linked to heart disease, U.S researchers said.

Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle examined carbohydrate foods that digest more slowly, or slow carbohydrates, and those that turn quickly into simple sugars, or fast carbohydrates -- such as fruit, white flour, bread, potato chips, rice, potatoes or sugar.

The researchers looked at C-reactive protein, a marker of inflammation. It was lower among about 40 overweight or obese people when they were on a slow carbohydrate eating pattern.

"The source of the carbohydrate really does matter...urge consumers to choose whole grains, non-refined grains and so forth...

The study was published in the Journal of Nutrition.
 
I have been doing this all wrong for years. Been sick in bed for 5 plus days no appetitie dropped 8lbs and though now at work think I will lose another couple till I'm completely back on my feet.
 
I've been able to kick my coca-cola addiction, over the last 3 months or so I've drank as much coke as I used to have in like 3 days.
 
Deebo said:
I've been able to kick my coca-cola addiction, over the last 3 months or so I've drank as much coke as I used to have in like 3 days.
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Good for you! On average, 1/3 of the sugar one consumes comes from pop. Kicking that will go a long way to improving your health.
 
TheMightyOdin said:
Deebo said:
I've been able to kick my coca-cola addiction, over the last 3 months or so I've drank as much coke as I used to have in like 3 days.
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Do you notice any changes in your body, energy, mood, etc?
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I've dropped a few pounds, not sure how much and I sleep better.

The sleep is probably because I don't get any caffeine later in the evening.
 
How much Coke were you drinking before Deebo?  I have a buddy who puts down 4 to 6 a day pretty much.

It's pretty remarkable what even the slightest change to one's diet could do.  I went from buying a croissant/muffin/tea biscuit/bagel/cinnamon bun each day here at work for breakfast, accompanied with a sugary juice, to bringing a granola bar and banana or making a yogurt and granola parfait topped with fresh fruit.  That change alone helped me lose roughly 10 pounds over the course of a year.
 
I used to drink AT LEAST 6 Cokes daily.  I'm down to having 1-2 Diet Cokes daily, and almost no real Coke at all.
 
Peter D. said:
How much Coke were you drinking before Deebo?  I have a buddy who puts down 4 to 6 a day pretty much.

It's pretty remarkable what even the slightest change to one's diet could do.  I went from buying a croissant/muffin/tea biscuit/bagel/cinnamon bun each day here at work for breakfast, accompanied with a sugary juice, to bringing a granola bar and banana or making a yogurt and granola parfait topped with fresh fruit.  That change alone helped me lose roughly 10 pounds over the course of a year.
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I'd say 2-5, depending on the day. I had tried a few times before, but this time I really felt commited to cutting it back. It was as simple as not buying cases.

Weight wasn't a problem for me, so I'm finding the weight loss a little problematic, I'm not terribly active and I'm still dropping wieght so I think I'm undereating.
 
Deebo said:
Peter D. said:
How much Coke were you drinking before Deebo?  I have a buddy who puts down 4 to 6 a day pretty much.

It's pretty remarkable what even the slightest change to one's diet could do.  I went from buying a croissant/muffin/tea biscuit/bagel/cinnamon bun each day here at work for breakfast, accompanied with a sugary juice, to bringing a granola bar and banana or making a yogurt and granola parfait topped with fresh fruit.  That change alone helped me lose roughly 10 pounds over the course of a year.
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I'd say 2-5, depending on the day. I had tried a few times before, but this time I really felt commited to cutting it back. It was as simple as not buying cases.

Weight wasn't a problem for me, so I'm finding the weight loss a little problematic, I'm not terribly active and I'm still dropping wieght so I think I'm undereating.
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Or maybe your perception of a good weight for yourself is off ? Just guessing.

I was surprised at my own weight loss and where my body finally settled.
 
The importance and benefits of proper protein and it's role in the body...

http://www.lef.org/news/LefDailyNews.htm?NewsID=12416&Section=Nutrition
 
hockeyfan1 said:
The importance and benefits of proper protein and it's role in the body...

http://www.lef.org/news/LefDailyNews.htm?NewsID=12416&Section=Nutrition
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I'm taking in 210 to 240 grams of protien per day.
 
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