The Official Movie Thread

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

Dehydration became a real concern.

 

[rdowdall]

Look.  if you have kids, you'll understand where I am coming from.  If you don't then you won't.  Leave it at that.  You don't know my life, or what challenges I have to face when it comes to my boys.

For me this was a largely academic exercise of killing time at work. No judgment or anything personal was intended, and I'm sorry it went there.

As an aside: just because I don't know what you're going through, that doesn't mean I don't care. I see what you've been saying and I think it's great that you want to make a positive difference in the lives of those around you.

Whatever your challenges are, I'm available if you want to just bounce ideas or what-not off of in 'public' or in PMs because I don't believe anyone's challenges are meant to be faced alone. And I don't think I'm the only person here who'd be willing to lend a listening ear.

My oldest is autistic.  Low end of the spectrum.  Used to be called asperger's syndrome till they rolled it in to the whole spectrum.  Going through the process to have him identified has lead to some revelations about my own life.  Also my youngest is presenting the same sort of characteristics but it's harder to diagnose because he could just be mimicking his older brother.  There are worse things to deal with as a parent, for sure, so I didn't mean to make it in to a pity me sort of statement.

The reason the comment struck a nerve is that people simplify how kids react sometimes and say things like "You should just do this, or you could do this" but that doesn't always work when your kid looks at the world a little differently and acts differently than the social norm.  It usually comes across as "look at my little angel, and I bet if you just did this thing that I do, your kid would be normal too." and it's just not that simple with my oldest.  Then you explain your situation, thinking that will help things, and then misconceptions, and misinformation step in and things take a turn.  It gets worse when you start to feel like you put your kid at a disadvantage due to genes that you provided that may be lacking.  It's better now than it used to be because we have more information on it.  Like I said, it lead to some revelations about my own life that certainly would have helped me cope with some stuff when I was younger.  Better doesn't mean though that there still isn't work to be put in to the situation. 

My advice to new parents is "Don't listen to any advice.  Make the decisions you feel you need to make and trust your instincts"  because the amount of advice you receive as a new parent is crazy.  Everyone is an expert on everyone else's kids but every kid is different and what they need should be determined by their parents ( this is assuming that the parents are loving and caring.  If they are not, well this gets thrown out the window ). 

I overreacted to the comment so I am sorry that I was short with you.  I should have taken a beat and crafted a better response.  I'll know for next time, perhaps when Wonder Woman 2 comes out.

 

[herman]

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Thanks for sharing, SI. I have a better understanding of what you are going through and I would have similar frustrations if I were in your shoes. For what it's worth, it sounds to me like you guys are on the right track in accommodating all the different needs and navigating this together. Like any relationship, communication is key.

I read The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time some years back, and it was pretty eye opening to the experiences of those with Asperger's (it's a mystery novel told in the first-person point of view of a kid with Asperger's who is trying to solve the murder of his neighbour's dog).

I very much look forward to your take on Wonder Woman 2, if it ever comes out.

 

[Bullfrog]

I just wanted to point out to both SI and herman that I think it's great to see both of you apologize. I truly find this conversation interesting and hearing both points of view was great.

 

[herman]

Dehydration became a real concern.

I have the solution to your electrolyte imbalance problem.

 

[Kin]

Still, that's some kind of news about Rotten Tomatoes, right? Fellas? Right?

 

[rdowdall]

-snip-

Thanks for sharing, SI. I have a better understanding of what you are going through and I would have similar frustrations if I were in your shoes. For what it's worth, it sounds to me like you guys are on the right track in accommodating all the different needs and navigating this together. Like any relationship, communication is key.

I read The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night Time some years back, and it was pretty eye opening to the experiences of those with Asperger's (it's a mystery novel told in the first-person point of view of a kid with Asperger's who is trying to solve the murder of his neighbour's dog).

I very much look forward to your take on Wonder Woman 2, if it ever comes out.

Thanks Herman, I'll check it out.  If it's as good as the Injustice recommendation, then I am sure that I will enjoy it. 

 

[rdowdall]

Still, that's some kind of news about Rotten Tomatoes, right? Fellas? Right?

Well Batman V Superman got an aggregate score of 27%.  It will be interesting to see what this movie opens at.  I'm going to see it.  I am not sure if it's going to be good or not.  In the past, the Rotten Tomatoes score has affected my decision to watch a movie.  For example Transformers 5.

If the box office doesn't do well though, it will still be hard to determine cause.  This movie has a lot going against it.  The reshoots, the Ben Affleck stuff, and the fact hat BvS got bad reviews.

 

[herman]

Still, that's some kind of news about Rotten Tomatoes, right? Fellas? Right?

So it's not just hockey that can't handle analytics?

 

[rdowdall]

I just wanted to point out to both SI and herman that I think it's great to see both of you apologize. I truly find this conversation interesting and hearing both points of view was great.

Well after I blow up, I feel bad.  I did it to Nik once too.  It's funny because stepping back usually brings about the question "Why are you getting mad?".  It's a discussion on the internet, and I don't like that I sort of lose perspective. 

I have a certain respect for lawyers.  I am not sure how they maintain their level headed-ness in the heat of the discussions about law.  I mean that stuff means something.  I would become this rage induced monster that just kept shouting "TOMB RAIDER" over and over again.

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

I just wanted to point out to both SI and herman that I think it's great to see both of you apologize. I truly find this conversation interesting and hearing both points of view was great.

Agreed.

All silliness aside, it was an interesting back and forth that was a bit of a rollercoaster at times, thankfully it ended well.

Nik, I'll get back to you on the Rotten Tomatoes situation, we have a neighborhood meeting about that news tonight.

What a total bombshell.

 

[rdowdall]

Only two more nights till the Leafs play again.

 

[herman]

Deadpool 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-Cjsnq8kVU

There are no mistakes. Only happy little accidents.

 

[herman]

Spoilers (sort of): don't click through if you don't want to know ANYTHING about Justice League.

Further to our most interesting conversation during this break in Leafs action, check out some of the notes from this Twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/jowrotethis/status/930799704413110274

JL gives us a very interesting case study of two directors sharing the seat and how attitudes and decisions are reflected in style/tone/focus.

 

[Kin]

To be fair I think making a cohesive, focused film about 5 or 6 superheroes who all want screen time and a purpose is always an uphill battle(I think the only reason Marvel made it work is because everyone involved had been in another movie beforehand). When you throw in the Directing change it makes it near impossible. When you also throw in that neither Whedon nor Snyder are particularly good directors I don't really think there was ever a ton of hope for a critical darling.

 

[herman]

To be fair I think making a cohesive, focused film about 5 or 6 superheroes who all want screen time and a purpose is always an uphill battle(I think the only reason Marvel made it work is because everyone involved had been in another movie beforehand). When you throw in the Directing change it makes it near impossible. When you also throw in that neither Whedon nor Snyder are particularly good directors I don't really think there was ever a ton of hope for a critical darling.

This film was designed to be a franchise launch pad (well, second one), rather than an actual film. It sounds like it has the same build as Suicide Squad, which was really not good.

 

[Kin]

This film was designed to be a franchise launch pad (well, second one), rather than an actual film. It sounds like it has the same build as Suicide Squad, which was really not good.

I don't think there's anything nobler about the design of any other superhero movie for the most part. They all seem to be made with the sequels and the various merchandising tie-ins in mind. Marvel just recognizes that the movies they're making should primarily be fun.

Hiring Whedon after Snyder's departure seems like it was in part an attempt to graft fun onto the murky nonsense of what existed but even if Whedon hadn't proved with the second Avengers movie that he's got a limited bag of tricks the two halves were almost certainly going to result in something too disparate to work.

 

[bustaheims]

I don't think there's anything nobler about the design of any other superhero movie for the most part. They all seem to be made with the sequels and the various merchandising tie-ins in mind. Marvel just recognizes that the movies they're making should primarily be fun.

Yeah. Marvel has definitely realized they're making "popcorn movies," not serious films. They make movies people legitimately want to watch multiple time. DC makes three hour long projections of grim-dark, with the occasional Wonder Woman or Dark Knight thrown in.

 

[Kin]

I don't think there's anything nobler about the design of any other superhero movie for the most part. They all seem to be made with the sequels and the various merchandising tie-ins in mind. Marvel just recognizes that the movies they're making should primarily be fun.

Yeah. Marvel has definitely realized they're making "popcorn movies," not serious films. They make movies people legitimately want to watch multiple time. DC makes three hour long projections of grim-dark, with the occasional Wonder Woman or Dark Knight thrown in.

And even then I'd say the Dark Knight only really works because it's a fun re-watch with some good setpieces and Ledger knocking it out of the park. I don't think it had anything all that compelling to say. 

 

[herman]

Marvel has shifted their comic book movie entries into the space where most genres end up: just the backdrop and context to whatever genre story they're going for, and currently a bit of a reflection/subversion of their established tropes and themes.

DCEU doesn't know what each of their movies is for, other than, hey this moment in the comics would look cool on screen, so let's do it.