The Official Movie Thread
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Just watched "It Might Get Loud."
Jimmy Page looked like the elder statesman, the wise old guitar wizard. Edge looked like the enthusiastic younger guitar player, I liked his thoughts on effects and whatnot.
Then there's Jack White. No offense, but the guy is an extreme weirdo. I don't know what's wrong with the guy but he came off as very, very odd and his views on music were a bit extreme. He spent the documentary teaching his fake 9 year old self some of the more ridiculous aspects of the guitar, like stomping on one.
I think he's kinda nuts, and absolutely overrated as a singer and guitarist in comparison to Jimmy Page and Edge.
Jimmy Page looked like the elder statesman, the wise old guitar wizard. Edge looked like the enthusiastic younger guitar player, I liked his thoughts on effects and whatnot.
Then there's Jack White. No offense, but the guy is an extreme weirdo. I don't know what's wrong with the guy but he came off as very, very odd and his views on music were a bit extreme. He spent the documentary teaching his fake 9 year old self some of the more ridiculous aspects of the guitar, like stomping on one.
I think he's kinda nuts, and absolutely overrated as a singer and guitarist in comparison to Jimmy Page and Edge.
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Bender said:
One of the things that I think was interesting about that movie was that in addition to the obvious generation gap between the three guys they all sort of represented the different roles a lead guitarist can play in a band. Page, if memory serves, didn't sing at all in Zeppelin and was exclusively playing, The Edge is the secondary writer/singer in U2 and then Jack White who's been the driving creative force/lead singer of every band he's been in(even when he's drumming).
I think that came across as they talked in the interviews(although it's been a while since I saw it) where, with White, it was as much about being a frontman as it was being a guitarist. That sort of culminates at the end there with "The Weight" where White is taking the lead, as it were.
Obviously there's no point in arguing as to how talented Jack White stacks up to the other guys because, you know, to each their own but I thought his inclusion made the movie a little more interesting for that reason.
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Bender said:
You do know that that entire documentary was Page's brainchild, right? He decided on White as a subject, apparently. (after discussions with Guggenhiem, of course)
He's definitely an odd cat, but I think he's a juxtaposition to the Edge, who espouses the technology angle. White is musically creative to the core, and his off-the-cuff experimentation, while perhaps appearing childish, lends itself to establishing that it's not the instrument that makes the music.
While certainly not a perfect documentary (it could have gotten louder), it was a very interesting peek into the histories of some of musics more important folks. I loved it.
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Bender said:
I don't know that the point of the flick is to compare the three guys. It's just three successful musicians from different generations and with different perspectives about music and the guitar getting together and talking/playing.
And I like Jimmy Page and all(Not Led Zeppelin obviously but his work with Donovan was pretty good) but, personally, I'd hesitate to call the Edge "legendary". He's a pretty good guitarist in a band I'm not a huge fan of.
Saint Nik said:
Yeah, I mean to each their own to some extent. I personally think Edge is a more accomplished and versatile guitarist more due to his open mindedness about the instrument than anything. The way he plays the instrument on Drowning Man for example was pretty unique imo. I think he'll go down as a legendary guitarist if only for his uniqueness in his sound, but I think that could be enough.
I just find Jack White offputting for whatever reason, and I just don't see what's special about him other than the fact that he's a very eccentric person. I find it hard to see too much uniqueness in his style to be ranked as one of the top 20 guitarists of all time (Rolling Stone) although of course that wasn't necessarily the point of the movie.
I guess it's more a criticism of the supposed ranking system that people employ. Ranking Jack White ahead of guys like Mark Knopfler, Pete Townshend, Tom Morello, John McLaughlin, Frank Zappa etc. just seems wonky imo.
Of course you also have "guitar gods" like Steve Vai and Joe Satriani, but I guess that's a different category altogether.
Kin
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Bender said:
Well, it's the old debate about Keith Richards(#10 on Rolling Stone's list), right? He won't melt your face with a solo but he wrote and played some of the greatest rock riffs of all time. So does that make him a great guitarist or a great songwriter?
That's really the category Jack White belongs in even though I think he's pretty good technically and has gotten some pretty great sounds out of his guitar.
So, like I said, three different kinds of guitar players in addition to the age thing.
The lesson, I guess, is to not worry much about things so fundamentally stupid as Rolling Stone's "Best ____ of all Time" lists.
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Saint Nik said:
Really? I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that. Who doesn't like Led Zeppelin?
maplesyrup
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Zeppelin and Bob Marley... Anyone who doesn't like either is a communist.
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Jalili
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Sucker Punch said:
Justin Bieber fans?
Kin
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Sucker Punch said:
What probably should have tipped you off there was the "obviously". Anyone saying they like Jimmy Page but "obviously" not Led Zeppelin can probably be assumed to be joking, as I was. I like Zeppelin fine.
That said, probably my least favourite part of Zeppelin now that I'm drug-free most days is Robert Plant so I do really like Page's 60's studio stuff/Yardbirds stuff quite a bit as you get that really great playing without all the high pitched yammering about the Lord of the Rings. Probably my favourite album that Jimmy Page plays is on is Kinks.
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Stebro
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the langoliers is a cool weird movie
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Saint Nik said:
Ah, I get it. I thought you were referring to a previous post that I'd missed.