The Ontario Provincial Election

[Bender]

I wish I knew more about provincial economics though. Ontario has a pretty high debt load right now: about 10x per person than California. I can't imagine that this isn't problematic.

 

[Darryl]

Not a McGuinty fan but thank the lord Hudak didn't win.

 

[donkeyy0]

What's frustrating is people walking into my store...buying a cd and seeing the 13% sales tax...looking me straight in the eye and saying "damn that McGuinty eh!?"

Because you're paying 13% on a cd...wonderful.

There was no way I was ever voting for Tony Genco. Thank god people figured it out this time around...

 

[bustaheims]

What's frustrating is people walking into my store...buying a cd and seeing the 13% sales tax...looking me straight in the eye and saying "damn that McGuinty eh!?"

Because you're paying 13% on a cd...wonderful.

The same 13% they would have paid if the GST and PST were still separate taxes, no less.

 

[donkeyy0]

What's frustrating is people walking into my store...buying a cd and seeing the 13% sales tax...looking me straight in the eye and saying "damn that McGuinty eh!?"

Because you're paying 13% on a cd...wonderful.

The same 13% they would have paid if the GST and PST were still separate taxes, no less.

Ya that was my point. What's equally frustrating is my coworkers telling the customer that the 25 dollar "OES environmental handling fee" on their television is a recycling tax and that we should just "blame McGuinty".

Like I get it's easier to just say that rather than actually explain what the fee is for...but don't LIE to these people...

There is nothing at my store that would have been exempt from either sales tax. You're paying 13% no matter what. Comments like "F*** McGuinty" just oozes ignorance.

Which I guess I should just accept considering my riding...

 

[hockeyfan1]

Not a McGuinty fan but thank the lord Hudak didn't win.

I echo same.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Not a McGuinty fan but thank the lord Hudak didn't win.

I echo same. 

 

[Optimus Reimer]

I actually prefer minority governments.  The leaders need to co-operate with each other in order to pass legislation.  Under a minority government, McGuinty will have a hard time pushing bad bills through the legislature assuming that Hudak and the NDP Leader have brains in their heads and can keep the Liberals in check. 

Similarly, a Conservative minority federal government, would have prevented Harper from pushing unpopular bills through Parliament.  Unfortunately, when you have Ignatieff as the Liberal leader, that pretty much guaranteed a Conservative majority government.

Also remember that Ontario prefers a balance of power related to the federal government.  If the Liberals are running the province, the Conservatives are running the country and vice versa.

 

[L K]

I actually prefer minority governments.  The leaders need to co-operate with each other in order to pass legislation.  Under a minority government, McGuinty will have a hard time pushing bad bills through the legislature assuming that Hudak and the NDP Leader have brains in their heads and can keep the Liberals in check. 

Similarly, a Conservative minority federal government, would have prevented Harper from pushing unpopular bills through Parliament.  Unfortunately, when you have Ignatieff as the Liberal leader, that pretty much guaranteed a Conservative majority government.

Also remember that Ontario prefers a balance of power related to the federal government.  If the Liberals are running the province, the Conservatives are running the country and vice versa.

I agree to an extent, but you lose a lot of really good policies too because the full force of some bills gets watered down by negotiation, that sometimes has nothing to do with good policy and has everything to do with protecting your government from the threat of non-confidence.

 

[seahawk]

Provincial election tonight, same night the NHL season kicks off with the Leafs and Habs, they sure picked a good night for the election!

Let's see if Ontario can beat Manitoba's turnout, we had only 57% of people vote.

The election date was fixed years ago in legislation and well before the NHL finalized their 2011-12 schedule. As for the turnout, CBC is reporting that it was 49.2%, a historic low. This is after advance polls were heavily expanded to give more people a chance to vote. Turnout at the poll I worked at was pushing 60% (not counting those who voted in advance) so I'm disappointed with how low the overall turnout was.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Also remember that Ontario prefers a balance of power
related to the federal government.  If the Liberals are running the province, the Conservatives are running the country and vice versa.

Yes, very true.  This 'tradition' dates back for quite some time, as I remember it being this way.