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Nik the Trik said:
I'm pretty sure I said last offseason that I'd do JVR for Fabbro straight up, so heck yeah. I just don't think teams get that silly on deadline day with rentals anymore.
Nik the Trik said:
They might have to lose Ellis to free agency by the time Fabbro is really ready to step in.
Something to keep in mind with Nashville too is that they're reportedly bringing their uber-prospect Eeli Tolvanen over after his season ends in Europe. That'll basically be a deadline type acquisition for them. That'll give them Forsberg-Fiala-Tolvanen-Hartnell on the left side.
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CarltonTheBear said:
Even still, there's a limit to how valuable a team is going to think a guy is if their structure limits him to being a #4 guy.
CarltonTheBear said:
Huh. NHL.com had him as a RW but that seems to not be the case elsewhere. Either way he's still pretty young and pretty small. I don't think it'd be too hard a sell to convince them they'd maybe be better suited being patient with him and adding size/experience/a surer thing in JVR.
herman
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I have the Bobcast queued up, but haven?t had a chance to dive into it yet to get Dreger?s actual annunciation to determine whether he meant ?a prospect? or ?A prospect?.
I was thinking of shopping JvR to the Islanders/Devils/Flyers/Hurricanes to see who wants to jump to the top of the pile.
I was thinking of shopping JvR to the Islanders/Devils/Flyers/Hurricanes to see who wants to jump to the top of the pile.
herman said:
I initially meant that as a joke but I do wonder if that's what happened now.
Nik the Trik said:
Hey, I've said before I'd be ok with just holding onto JVR but if that's the return then I certainly hope you're right.
herman
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This was part of a larger discussion about how the Leafs should move forward. Leafs stuff starts at 42:50 (Soundcloud); this conversation is a bit past the McDonagh talk. Transcription errors are mine, if any.
Dreger: I pulled a page off Bob's playbook and I contacted a couple of general managers today just specific to James van Reimsdyk, and I asked, "What would the market be for James van Reimsdyk." And the response that I got, "He'd be top of the class. He'd be the highest ranked forward."
LeBrun: You mean on July 1st? Or you mean, right now...
Dreger: Today! It would be a first, it would be an A prospect or a couple of prospects, and again that traditional conditional pick. You're talking about 4 key pieces! So, you know, for Lou to weigh it, to, you know, err on the side of 'well, let's see how we do in the playoffs because there's value in the experience of that process' versus getting all of that and maybe getting in the OEL sweepstakes or something like that in the offseason? That's curious.
Dreger: I pulled a page off Bob's playbook and I contacted a couple of general managers today just specific to James van Reimsdyk, and I asked, "What would the market be for James van Reimsdyk." And the response that I got, "He'd be top of the class. He'd be the highest ranked forward."
LeBrun: You mean on July 1st? Or you mean, right now...
Dreger: Today! It would be a first, it would be an A prospect or a couple of prospects, and again that traditional conditional pick. You're talking about 4 key pieces! So, you know, for Lou to weigh it, to, you know, err on the side of 'well, let's see how we do in the playoffs because there's value in the experience of that process' versus getting all of that and maybe getting in the OEL sweepstakes or something like that in the offseason? That's curious.
Hmmm I think I'm going to need a linguistic expert to comb through that first.
herman
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The earlier part of the conversation was about how no one was quite sure if Lou was really in on a trade potential or just dabbling because he would always really lowball it on the first pass.
So we've made an offer for McDonagh, but it was on the lower end of everyone else's pitch.
So we've made an offer for McDonagh, but it was on the lower end of everyone else's pitch.
herman said:
Lou: We'll give you Josh Leivo.
NYR GM: Lou... I respect the hell out of you but I mean Ryan McDonagh is a top-pairing defenc...
Lou: And a 3rd.
NYR GM: ...
Lou: In 2021.
IJustLurkHere
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Bullfrog said:
Do people really expect this? When has a playoff team (even one on the bubble, which the leafs aren't) ever traded a 30 goal scorer out?
Why are you guys suggesting the Leafs should trade JVR? The Leafs are a few points out from being the top team in the league right now. I say change nothing. They are rolling right now and they have good chemistry. They actually have a somewhat decent chance of going to the cup this year. It's not easy to do that. I have watched them play against great teams like Tampa Bay, Nashville, and Boston lately and I really think this team is for real. While it would be tempting to trade JVR for a nice haul, I don't think I would do it, personally. JVR has practically as many goals as Auston Matthews. He is extremely talented. JVR was the one good thing Brian Burke did for Toronto. He fleeced Philly's GM at the time.
If the Leafs do anything, the should make a somewhat minor addition. Not a big splash. They have numerous spare parts like Josh Leivo who they can parlay into something they could use, like a decent defenseman that would keep Polak out of the lineup. He doesn't even have to be all that great. Polak is pretty terrible IMO.
If the Leafs do anything, the should make a somewhat minor addition. Not a big splash. They have numerous spare parts like Josh Leivo who they can parlay into something they could use, like a decent defenseman that would keep Polak out of the lineup. He doesn't even have to be all that great. Polak is pretty terrible IMO.
Highlander
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Lets bring him back when Lou signs on for Yoda in the next Star Wars franchise.
Didn't one of the draft picks he traded for Kessel turn into Tyler Seguin? I'm pretty sure it did. Another one became Dougie Hamilton. There was another pick also. IIRC it was two firsts and a second for Kessel. Essentially now we have Kapanen to show for all that. Perhaps there were outside influences but I'm not a fan of what Brian Burke did in Toronto. Yes, you can cherry pick the good things he did. Overall he was slightly less of a disaster than John Ferguson, though, IMO.Nik the Trik said: