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AvroArrow said:Wtf, could we not beat that?
Bates said:One problem with those is that he played as if he was a 1st pairing D in NY. That isn't what he is and will likely benefit from a more suited place in the lineup.
bustaheims said:He?s obviously not a world beater or anything, but in the right situation, being relied on a little less and such, I think he could be a reasonably good 3rd pairing type. Obviously, not enough for a Trouba, but, not a bad trade piece, considering the types of young players/prospects that typically get dealt.
CarltonTheBear said:https://twitter.com/Account4hockey/status/1140799606940454913
CarltonTheBear said:It sounds like he wasn't interested in signing a long-term deal with a Canadian team, and also fitting in his contract would have been tricky. But the first part was probably the bigger issue.
princedpw said:Should we believe that? Why would Winnipeg intentionally take a worse deal if it was viable?
CarltonTheBear said:Well "better" is obviously subjective. Maybe Winnipeg really likes what they see in Pionk. Maybe they were less enthusiastic about the other pieces other NHL teams wanted to send than the other GMs were.
herman said:Trouba wanted the New York/Detroit area because his fianc?e is starting med school residency and he wanted to support her career as well. Winnipeg did Trouba a solid and saved cap space as a result.
Nik the Trik said:herman said:Trouba wanted the New York/Detroit area because his fianc?e is starting med school residency and he wanted to support her career as well. Winnipeg did Trouba a solid and saved cap space as a result.
Is the "New York/Detroit Area" a thing?
herman said:It seems like a deliberate avoidance of Buffalo if you ask me.
Mainly one is school/work and the other is hometown.
Nik the Trik said:There's also the question of draft picks that makes things difficult. After all, there's no easy answer to what's better if there's a package on the table like two 2nd round picks vs. one 1st or, say, a 1st(in 2021) and a 3rd vs. a 1st this year.
Nik the Trik said:CarltonTheBear said:Well "better" is obviously subjective. Maybe Winnipeg really likes what they see in Pionk. Maybe they were less enthusiastic about the other pieces other NHL teams wanted to send than the other GMs were.
There's also the question of draft picks that makes things difficult. After all, there's no easy answer to what's better if there's a package on the table like two 2nd round picks vs. one 1st or, say, a 1st(in 2021) and a 3rd vs. a 1st this year.
princedpw said:Right. In other words, the other deals may not necessarily have been better (at least not in the eyes of Winnipeg).
Not meaning to nitpick but that would be 2nd line minutes as opposed to 1st line he was in NY. And with a better supporting cast. I suspect the role the Jets have in mind might also be a but much. Seems like more of a supporting 2nd liner.CarltonTheBear said:https://twitter.com/mikemcintyrewpg/status/1140795147757768704
So much for Pionk getting easier minutes. The Jets think they're getting a legit top-4 defenceman here.