ontariojames
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He would've been on pace for around 55 points had he been on pace for a full 82 games, and that's playing with two ppg players,I don't know why you would consider that a legitimate number 1 centre.
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ontariojames said:He would've been on pace for around 55 points had he been on pace for a full 82 games, and that's playing with two ppg players,I don't know why you would consider that a legitimate number 1 centre.
cw said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:I would chalk up Bozak's signing as one of Burke's best moves. People laughed when it was claimed that getting him was like getting a free first-rounder. Well, there are plenty of first-rounders who never make it at all in the league and Bozak has done that ... and as I've argued is still improving. Would he not be considered one of the best of the recent college FA signings?
Undrafted scoring race 2011-12
Martin St Louis (age 36) 59 Pts (NCAA signed 1998)
David Desharnais (age 25) 47 (QMJHL signed 2008)
Teddy Purcell (age 26) 47 Pts (NCAA/USHL signed 2007)
Chris Kunitz (age 32) 44 Pts (NCAA signed 2003)
Alexandre Burrows (age 30) 41 Pts (QMJHL signed 2003)
Matt Read (age 25) 38 Pts (NCAA signed 2011)
Rich Peverley (age 29) 38 Pts (NCAA signed 2007)
Tyler Bozak (age 25) 37Pts (NCAA signed 2009)
Pascal Dupuis (age 32) 37Pts (QMJHL signed 2000)
UFA Goalies
Hiller Switz signed 2007
Backstrom Finland signed 2006
Niemi Finland signed 2008
Not sure about UFA dmen beyond none are scoring more this season.
So I guess between Bozak & Read, they may be the best young UFA signings since 2009 unless there's a dman I overlooked.
Bozak is the sixth highest scoring undrafted NCAA player in the league this year.
As it appears Grabovski was worth a first round pick, I'd say with Bozak's contract and contract staus, he'd be worth pretty close to a 2nd round pick on the current trade market.
I would think Bozak would have to be regarded as one of the best recent NCAA UFA signings.
cw said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:I would chalk up Bozak's signing as one of Burke's best moves. People laughed when it was claimed that getting him was like getting a free first-rounder. Well, there are plenty of first-rounders who never make it at all in the league and Bozak has done that ... and as I've argued is still improving. Would he not be considered one of the best of the recent college FA signings?
Undrafted scoring race 2011-12
Martin St Louis (age 36) 59 Pts (NCAA signed 1998)
David Desharnais (age 25) 47 (QMJHL signed 2008)
Teddy Purcell (age 26) 47 Pts (NCAA/USHL signed 2007)
Chris Kunitz (age 32) 44 Pts (NCAA signed 2003)
Alexandre Burrows (age 30) 41 Pts (QMJHL signed 2003)
Matt Read (age 25) 38 Pts (NCAA signed 2011)
Rich Peverley (age 29) 38 Pts (NCAA signed 2007)
Tyler Bozak (age 25) 37Pts (NCAA signed 2009)
Pascal Dupuis (age 32) 37Pts (QMJHL signed 2000)
UFA Goalies
Hiller Switz signed 2007
Backstrom Finland signed 2006
Niemi Finland signed 2008
Not sure about UFA dmen beyond none are scoring more this season.
So I guess between Bozak & Read, they may be the best young UFA signings since 2009 unless there's a dman I overlooked.
Bozak is the sixth highest scoring undrafted NCAA player in the league this year.
As it appears Grabovski was worth a first round pick, I'd say with Bozak's contract and contract staus, he'd be worth pretty close to a 2nd round pick on the current trade market.
I would think Bozak would have to be regarded as one of the best recent NCAA UFA signings.
Madferret said:Bullfrog said:Madferret said:The best part of that thread is the Spezza vs Bozak discussions...
They must have been drunk.
I think we all were!
Bender said:cw said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:I would chalk up Bozak's signing as one of Burke's best moves. People laughed when it was claimed that getting him was like getting a free first-rounder. Well, there are plenty of first-rounders who never make it at all in the league and Bozak has done that ... and as I've argued is still improving. Would he not be considered one of the best of the recent college FA signings?
Undrafted scoring race 2011-12
Martin St Louis (age 36) 59 Pts (NCAA signed 1998)
David Desharnais (age 25) 47 (QMJHL signed 2008)
Teddy Purcell (age 26) 47 Pts (NCAA/USHL signed 2007)
Chris Kunitz (age 32) 44 Pts (NCAA signed 2003)
Alexandre Burrows (age 30) 41 Pts (QMJHL signed 2003)
Matt Read (age 25) 38 Pts (NCAA signed 2011)
Rich Peverley (age 29) 38 Pts (NCAA signed 2007)
Tyler Bozak (age 25) 37Pts (NCAA signed 2009)
Pascal Dupuis (age 32) 37Pts (QMJHL signed 2000)
UFA Goalies
Hiller Switz signed 2007
Backstrom Finland signed 2006
Niemi Finland signed 2008
Not sure about UFA dmen beyond none are scoring more this season.
So I guess between Bozak & Read, they may be the best young UFA signings since 2009 unless there's a dman I overlooked.
Bozak is the sixth highest scoring undrafted NCAA player in the league this year.
As it appears Grabovski was worth a first round pick, I'd say with Bozak's contract and contract staus, he'd be worth pretty close to a 2nd round pick on the current trade market.
I would think Bozak would have to be regarded as one of the best recent NCAA UFA signings.
Don't disagree with you CW but do you feel like he has a place on this team going forward? He's clearly not a 1C and the 2C is locked already. Could he fit into the 3C slot?
Corn Flake said:Madferret said:Bullfrog said:Madferret said:The best part of that thread is the Spezza vs Bozak discussions...
They must have been drunk.
I think we all were!
Boy oh boy can't think of many examples of a coach/system turning a player around like Spezza has this year.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:I think the Stajan comparisons are off somewhat. I well remember how Stajan was tagged Bambi his first couple of seasons. Bozak is no powerhouse, not built to be one, but I think he has the potential to attain Stajan's level of defense (and we'll see how that goes under Carlyle!) and has more upside offensively than Matty IMO.
Saint Nik said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:I think the Stajan comparisons are off somewhat. I well remember how Stajan was tagged Bambi his first couple of seasons. Bozak is no powerhouse, not built to be one, but I think he has the potential to attain Stajan's level of defense (and we'll see how that goes under Carlyle!) and has more upside offensively than Matty IMO.
Maybe some but not a ton. Stajan was pretty decent offensively his last two years here and his point totals are pretty respectable if you factor in who he was playing with.
Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:But it I don't think anybody thought he was going to put up big numbers.
Saint Nik said:Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:But it I don't think anybody thought he was going to put up big numbers.
That's probably true but I think the same is probably true for Bozak. Stajan, when he left, was a 55-60 point a year guy playing on the top line and I say top as opposed to #1 because there was nothing about that line that deserve to be confused with a good line. Right now Bozak is playing at a 55 point pace playing on a pretty good top line.
Does Bozak have capacity for growth from that? Yeah, if you told me in a couple years he was up at 25 goals and 65 points or so I'd say that sounded realistic. Much more than that? Eh, I don't see it so much.