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Potvin29 said:Hangin' out at Rob Ford's again eh?
bustaheims said:There's also this:
FriedgeHNIC: Team USA GM David Poile is on a conference call right now. According to multiple reports, he has publicly apologized to Bobby Ryan for...
FriedgeHNIC: what was said about him in articles about the selection process. Also says Brian Burke had Ryan on his final roster.
CarltonTheBear said:Apparently it was believed that USA hockey would be editorial control over the stories by that wasn't the case.
L K said:bustaheims said:There's also this:
FriedgeHNIC: Team USA GM David Poile is on a conference call right now. According to multiple reports, he has publicly apologized to Bobby Ryan for...
FriedgeHNIC: what was said about him in articles about the selection process. Also says Brian Burke had Ryan on his final roster.
I don't want to call BS because I don't really see any reason to lie, but the comments and selecting Ryan on the team seem to be quite contradictory.
Zee said:L K said:bustaheims said:There's also this:
FriedgeHNIC: Team USA GM David Poile is on a conference call right now. According to multiple reports, he has publicly apologized to Bobby Ryan for...
FriedgeHNIC: what was said about him in articles about the selection process. Also says Brian Burke had Ryan on his final roster.
I don't want to call BS because I don't really see any reason to lie, but the comments and selecting Ryan on the team seem to be quite contradictory.
Not really, not every player has to be "intense" to be successful. A lot of the same criticisms are made of Kessel that he's not intense but he's still an elite goal scorer. The comments were taken out of context, Burke ripped one part of Ryan's game, but i'm sure he values his ability to score as he had him on the final roster. Teams are made up of all sorts of different types of players, both intense and seamingly aloof players.
L K said:I don't want to call BS because I don't really see any reason to lie, but the comments and selecting Ryan on the team seem to be quite contradictory.
Snoopzilla said:The problem with Brian Burke is that he has to be the loudest man in the room, so he's always throwing out quotable things to say and making wisecracks.
If he had said that Ryan doesn't display the same intensity as some of the others they'e looking at, basically the same point is getting across, but he's still maintaining professionalism.
Potvin29 said:Yeah, Burke said Ryan could do things on the ice that others could not, and from the way Burnside phrased it it also seems like Burke referred to Ryan as a game-breaker. I got the impression that Burke liked Ryan's offensive game but was concerned, for whatever reason, that other guys would be getting the top offensive minutes and in that case they wanted a more well-rounded player for other minutes.
Nik the Trik said:I don't believe for a second that ESPN would either promise USA hockey editorial control over one of their stories or lead them to think that. Saying that's what resulted in the confusion sounds like CYA stuff to me.
Nik the Trik said:I find that really hard to believe. You're going to let two embedded reporters from major news organizations into all of your meetings on the basis that you "think" you have editorial control? 24/7's deal with the NHL is very specific because ultimately they're both creating an entertainment product. They're not journalists.
L K said:I don't want to call BS because I don't really see any reason to lie, but the comments and selecting Ryan on the team seem to be quite contradictory.
CarltonTheBear said:Poile clarified that later. He basically said that there was an understanding that nothing the reporters wrote would damage relationships between players and USA hockey. But yeah still they had to assume some negative comments about players would be written.
CarltonTheBear said:Off-topic, but Dave Poulin said the Leafs had editorial control over the content shown on 24/7.
Bullfrog said:That's how I read it too. Essentially, the position we would take on the team was already filled by Kessel and others. I imagine it'd be exactly the same with Kessel; if he wasn't going to be in a main scoring position they'd choose someone else.
Snoopzilla said:The problem with Brian Burke is that he has to be the loudest man in the room, so he's always throwing out quotable things to say and making wisecracks.
Nik the Trik said:Snoopzilla said:The problem with Brian Burke is that he has to be the loudest man in the room, so he's always throwing out quotable things to say and making wisecracks.
In the old days they would have called that "having a personality". True, it makes him an oddity in hockey circles but we shouldn't have a problem with it as fans.
Snoopzilla said:Nik the Trik said:Snoopzilla said:The problem with Brian Burke is that he has to be the loudest man in the room, so he's always throwing out quotable things to say and making wisecracks.
In the old days they would have called that "having a personality". True, it makes him an oddity in hockey circles but we shouldn't have a problem with it as fans.
I see it as a double-edged sword. Burke definitely has a gift for showmanship and makes for entertaining clips, but in some circles it's considered a lack of professionalism and is what got him fired by the Maple Leafs.
Snoopzilla said:I see it as a double-edged sword. Burke definitely has a gift for showmanship and makes for entertaining clips, but in some circles it's considered a lack of professionalism and is what got him fired by the Maple Leafs.