Vasilevskiy signs 8 year, $9.5mil extension with Tampa
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https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1155828789143904256
He has 1 year at $3.5mil left on his current deal.
He has 1 year at $3.5mil left on his current deal.
Kin
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As good as Vasilevskiy has been the last few years, and that's very good, this is basically Price/Bobrovsky level "Best Goalie in the World" money. Of Tampa's big deal contracts they've signed over the last few years, this is the first one that doesn't really read as a discount.
Getting some strong "To clarify, that's 10 years after next year -- so 11 years in total of our goaltender being better than yours" vibes here.
Kin
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Kind of interesting that this gets done before Point though, isn't it? I think it maybe reveals that either the whole class of current RFAs are really hoping someone signs and signs for big to set the market or maybe that Tampa sees Point as maybe being a product of his environment and are reluctant to pay him like a superstar?
Nik the Trik said:
One or maybe even two of their bigger mid-tier salaries (Palat, Johnson, Killorn) are almost certainly goners. Problem is though Palat and Johnson both would still have full NTCs after this upcoming season while Killorn's turns into a partial.
Gonna be really interesting to see how Tampa is managed post-Yzerman. So far I'm not particularily impressed with the only two big deals Brisebois has signed (this, and Gourde's).
herman
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https://twitter.com/TheOakLeafs/status/1155842516601724928
I take it we're not re-signing Andersen unless he's happy with 7M.
Edit:
I'm seeing different numbers on corsica
Vasilevskiy: 0.9283 on 4059 shots against (291 goals against)
Andersen: 0.9266 on 4972 shots against (365 goals against)
The kicker is GSAA (goals saved above average)
Vasilevskiy: -2.2
Andersen: 29.54
I take it we're not re-signing Andersen unless he's happy with 7M.
Edit:
I'm seeing different numbers on corsica
Vasilevskiy: 0.9283 on 4059 shots against (291 goals against)
Andersen: 0.9266 on 4972 shots against (365 goals against)
The kicker is GSAA (goals saved above average)
Vasilevskiy: -2.2
Andersen: 29.54
Nik the Trik said:
This is why I think that relative to Bobrovsky and Price, this is a still a slight discount at 9.5 million. He just won the Vezina and he's signing a year later than Bob when one would guess that the cap will be slightly higher. On another team, I'd have expected 10+ million (ie: at least equal to Bob).
For Tampa, this contract probably makes sense because they will be heavy contenders for the next 5 years.
Still, I think the back end of all of these contracts is going to be absolutely horrendous. I assume this contract comes with another full no-trade clause?
I'm noticing that Vasilevsky is only 25 right now whereas Bob is 31? That actually makes this contract look way, way, way better than Bob's. From an age standpoint, that's another reason to think Vasilevsky is the much, much better deal. 3 years from now we are going to look at Bob's contract and think it is going to be a disaster.
There are multiple confounding problems with goalies:
(1) you simply *cannot* win with bottom-of-the-barrel goaltending no matter how good the rest of the team is
(2) no one, apparently, has any idea how to predict how good a goalie will be in advance, which is why they are no longer ever high draft picks
(3) if a goalie is really good, they get *paid*
(4) you can't count on these *paid* goalies to actually be good (see, Price). Or perhaps it's just that goalies often decline rapidly in their 30s so by the time you've figured out that a goalie really is good based on past history and they get to UFA age then they start to decline
I'm wondering what the Leafs will do with Anderson. I guess I'd let him go and I'd try to trade for a mid-tier goalie??? But, of course, I have no idea which mid-tier goalie that would be. And it would be a huge risk. On the other hand, Anderson's been unfortunately crappy during the biggest games. I personally chalk that up to randomness and am hoping he'll be great next time.
There are multiple confounding problems with goalies:
(1) you simply *cannot* win with bottom-of-the-barrel goaltending no matter how good the rest of the team is
(2) no one, apparently, has any idea how to predict how good a goalie will be in advance, which is why they are no longer ever high draft picks
(3) if a goalie is really good, they get *paid*
(4) you can't count on these *paid* goalies to actually be good (see, Price). Or perhaps it's just that goalies often decline rapidly in their 30s so by the time you've figured out that a goalie really is good based on past history and they get to UFA age then they start to decline
I'm wondering what the Leafs will do with Anderson. I guess I'd let him go and I'd try to trade for a mid-tier goalie??? But, of course, I have no idea which mid-tier goalie that would be. And it would be a huge risk. On the other hand, Anderson's been unfortunately crappy during the biggest games. I personally chalk that up to randomness and am hoping he'll be great next time.
princedpw said:
That first year is still a RFA season for him, so he's not eligible for a NTC then.