What is the trade value (realistically) for Dion Phaneuf?
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Leafaholic99
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I'm surprised that Philly hasn't been mentioned anywhere (that I've seen) for Phaneuf, his style of play is what they usually like anchoring thier blueline.
One of the significant arguments against Phanny's contract is that he's overpaid, which he was at that time, but in 2 to 3 years I expect his contract will be more in line with the market and subsequent years maybe even it will appear he's underpaid. An example of this might be JVR who's contract for a potential 20 goal scorer was high at that time but now appears a bargain, who knows.
x.jr.benchwarmer
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The trade value for Dion in light of the apparent market as determined by the Kessel trade might be a 2nd round pick and perhaps a prospect.
But of course there has to be a team that wants Phaneuf and that might be a stretch now.
(This would have been a much happier Canada Day for me if Dion was traded instead of Kessel for so many reasons...).
But of course there has to be a team that wants Phaneuf and that might be a stretch now.
(This would have been a much happier Canada Day for me if Dion was traded instead of Kessel for so many reasons...).
wnc096 said:
Do you think he's still a solid bet to score 30 or is he used better as trade bait, I think his 30 goal days are done unless Kadri improves considerably or he's traded to a team with elite players for him to play with. There's nothing wrong with JVR if he participated in the team game more but really he doesn't, will he continue to be a productive player without Kessel, will Bozak, this year might become a significant revelation even for Kadri. While Kessel was in TO his line faced the best and brightest from the opposition now it'll probably be Kadri's.
Kin
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Neil Brennan, who some people might remember as the co-writer/director of Chappelle's Show, directed a 60 second Nike Commercial titled "Find Your Fast" featuring many of the world's greatest athletes. It features the likes of Kobe Bryant, Wayne Rooney, Mo Farrah, Serena Williams, Richard Sherman, Rafael Nadal...and our very own Captain.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh8r6S2FNP0[/youtube]
I mean, Phaneuf isn't fast but still.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh8r6S2FNP0[/youtube]
I mean, Phaneuf isn't fast but still.
A Statistical Look at the Maple Leafs Defence Entering the Rebuild
http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2015/07/05/a-statistical-look-at-the-maple-leafs-defence-entering-the-rebuild/
I've always found it odd that everyone has consistently and resolutely panned Phanny knowing that Phanny's icetime is normally against the opposition's best while playing at the same time as the Kessel line and having partners like Kostka, Holzer, etc. Many nights it appeared to me he was overwhelmed by his lack of support and the quality of the opposition, he looked bad, he needed help. He's not going to get the partner upgrade this year unless Rielly or Gardiner improve but maybe the Babcock effect of tightening up the team's defensive game will show the haters that Phanny has been, at least in my eyes, TO's best d-man and in fact one of the better d-men in the league. When Phanny came to TO he was considered one of the better offensive d-men in the game but defensively suspect so he reinvented himself and lost mostly that offensive edge, not totally true, so hopefully with a new team supported defensive posture Phanny will be freed to be both the offensive and defensive superior d-man I'm sure he can be.
Is he moveable as he's currently paid, before the cap I would say yes easily, if a player like Sekera is worth 5.5 mil. per year then I think Phanny is properly compensated, in the cap age teams in need of quality upgrades seem more content to be penny wise and asset rich than vigilant in how the money is spent. Why Edmonton wouldn't spend the extra 1.5 mil. to get the real deal is beyond me but it is an indication of why that team with it's great young players has been so slow to rise from the wreckage.
I'm content with the idea that Phanny remain a Leaf, happy even, and I have no understanding of how people who have very little understanding of the workings of a team's dynamics can condemn Phanny as a captain.
http://mapleleafshotstove.com/2015/07/05/a-statistical-look-at-the-maple-leafs-defence-entering-the-rebuild/
I've always found it odd that everyone has consistently and resolutely panned Phanny knowing that Phanny's icetime is normally against the opposition's best while playing at the same time as the Kessel line and having partners like Kostka, Holzer, etc. Many nights it appeared to me he was overwhelmed by his lack of support and the quality of the opposition, he looked bad, he needed help. He's not going to get the partner upgrade this year unless Rielly or Gardiner improve but maybe the Babcock effect of tightening up the team's defensive game will show the haters that Phanny has been, at least in my eyes, TO's best d-man and in fact one of the better d-men in the league. When Phanny came to TO he was considered one of the better offensive d-men in the game but defensively suspect so he reinvented himself and lost mostly that offensive edge, not totally true, so hopefully with a new team supported defensive posture Phanny will be freed to be both the offensive and defensive superior d-man I'm sure he can be.
Is he moveable as he's currently paid, before the cap I would say yes easily, if a player like Sekera is worth 5.5 mil. per year then I think Phanny is properly compensated, in the cap age teams in need of quality upgrades seem more content to be penny wise and asset rich than vigilant in how the money is spent. Why Edmonton wouldn't spend the extra 1.5 mil. to get the real deal is beyond me but it is an indication of why that team with it's great young players has been so slow to rise from the wreckage.
I'm content with the idea that Phanny remain a Leaf, happy even, and I have no understanding of how people who have very little understanding of the workings of a team's dynamics can condemn Phanny as a captain.
Despite what a lot of people think, there is definitely a market for Phaneuf if the Leafs were really interested in moving him. My gut feeling is that they will not simply get rid of him for the sake of moving on but rather Babcock wants him to stay. Surely Babcock had input into personnel decisions in Detroit and was in favour of bringing him over at the deadline.
Having said that, Phaneuf's salary is not the reason why he hasn't been traded. It's much more likely the term left on the contract that is the deterrent if there have been deals discussed. A $7 million cap hit for a top 3 defenceman at 30 years old is quite different then the same cap hit for a declining 34/35 year old defenceman.
Having said that, Phaneuf's salary is not the reason why he hasn't been traded. It's much more likely the term left on the contract that is the deterrent if there have been deals discussed. A $7 million cap hit for a top 3 defenceman at 30 years old is quite different then the same cap hit for a declining 34/35 year old defenceman.
WhatIfGodWasALeaf
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Arn said:
I love fanny.
