proteus2000 said:
losveratos said:
proteus2000 said:
Grabo is definitely the guy with some value that they could trade (and potentially even resign in the offseason if him and his tdot wife want to come back). If it is bumped up from a 2nd + prospect to a 1st, they have to consider it.
Some people on here seriously overvalue what the leafs would get for some of their crummy pieces. Franson is a #5/6 plodding dman on a really porous defense, they don't even trust him to play much more than 15 min/night. Why would a contender give up a 2nd for him when there are way cheaper options for blue line depth.
The fact that you're calling Franson Crummy means you don't really know what you're talking about when it comes to him. He's 6'5", 24 yrs old, had 21p his rookie yr, 29p the year after of which 8 were goals. This yr he's on pace to top that. Meaning he's still getting better. Also last yr when the Preds went to the Playoffs he was playing .5p per game hockey. So he shows up there too. His caphit is only 800k and he's a freakin RFA to boot.
I just can't in any way shape or form envision him as crummy. At least in any way I interpret the word. So by all means continue thinking what you want... that's your right of course. But you won't be swaying much if any of us here.
If he was better I would figure that his atoi would rank better than 16/min a game for 5th on d. Even Komi and aulie play the same minutes when in the lineup. I don't think franson is the issue, calling him crummy stems from frustration, but I do find his defensive skills and speed nerve wracking.
I don't think the preds would give him up just to dump lombardis contract if they thought he wasn't a replaceable piece.
You're horribly misinformed... Nash only gave him up as they needed to dump lombardi's cap hit. That was the price of doing business. Their salary was more of a issue then and someone needed to go.
BB has done a great job of getting value back along with so called salary dumps...Lupal/Gardiner and Lombo/Franson are better then most other GM's have done.
Franson can only go upwards from here and he has gotten better every year so far.
The fact that Weber and Suter were the only ones holding him back from more icetime in nash speaks volumes about his all around game and skill set. He'll also be a reasonable contract for a number of years still, kind of like a different version of Gunnar. Key pieces to moving forward defensively and in managing cap space.
Trading Grabbo for anything short of a replacment or a super high 1st is three steps backwards at least. He's the heart and soul of the team and his line gives our 1A line room to breathe from other teams best checking units/top players. I'll start the line to give BB a backhander upside his head if he just dumps him off.
