hockeyfan1
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OldTimeHockey said:
I thought so too (at the time). Too bad that expectations of him did not blossom out. Perhaps with the Flyers, he will regain his form somewhat and play his position decently. Still a question nevertheless.
Where is Kadri and what's going on with his development?
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I thought so too (at the time). Too bad that expectations of him did not blossom out. Perhaps with the Flyers, he will regain his form somewhat and play his position decently. Still a question nevertheless.
GhostofPotvin29
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I can't say I recall too many people advocating Schenn for rookie of the year.
GhostofPotvin29
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I think Schenn can still be like Foote, but the game has also changed since Foote was in his prime. While not a speedster, Foote still had enough speed to keep up with most players, and the game was slower when he was playing in his top seasons. I think Schenn needs to still find another gear to be able to consistently keep up and not get beat by guys, especially if he's going to live up to a Foote sort of billing.
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Jalili
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Schenn has the ability to be better offensively than Foote, especially when he'll be playing in Philly's system, but his defensive game will never come close to Foote's.
OldTimeHockey
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Nik? said:
Exactly.
People forget that Schenn is 22 years old. It's only now that most dmen break into the league.
I am not stating that Schenn will rebound and get back on track in development, but I'm stating it's a possibility.
Chris Pronger was a -33 from the age of 19 to 22.
Chara was a -54 his first two seasons in the game(23 and 24)
No one expects Schenn to resemble either of those players, but neither are known as great skaters(yes I know their reach helps them immensely).
The point is, to completely write off Schenn at the age of 22 is a huge mistake in my humble opinion. While he could of topped out on his potential in his first year, it's highly unlikely. It is actually more likely that the mistreatment of him and his potential talents by the Leaf organization has been what limited his development.
dappleganger
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OldTimeHockey said:
I think Scott Cullen from TSN sums it up nicely with this:
http://www.tsn.ca/blogs/scott_cullen/?id=395291 "Four years into his NHL career, 22-year-old Luke Schenn is a mess. Even though he tied his career-best with 22 points, Schenn played a career-low 16:02 per game last season and had the worst shot differential among Leafs defencemen, despite not playing the most challenging minutes. He's still young enough that there is time to salvage his game, but it's no longer a sure thing that he'll be a shutdown defenceman in the league."
Back to the thread topic, I hope Kadri gets a shot between Lupul and Kessel in camp.
Britishbulldog
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dm_for_pm said:
I am basically disappointed that Burke didn't trade Schenn and Kadri to Winnipeg for Kane and then promptly sign him to a Wayne Simmond's style deal of 6 years at $4 MIL per year.
Is Kadri or JVR going to score 30 + goals a year at only 21 years of age?? Opps, I guess not since both are already older than that.
GhostofPotvin29
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I hope that was a joke post.
Britishbulldog
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Potvin29 said:
Getting in on the bashing. I kind of suck at it though.
?It was tough, pretty vigorous training,? said Kadri. ?It was a hard summer for me. I went Monday to Saturday up at six in the morning every single day. I definitely put in the time this year.?
The 2009 first-round pick joined Roberts in early July. Because of a shoulder separation caused in last season?s playoffs, which is now 100% healed, Kadri and Roberts spent a serious amount of dedication working on the lower body. According to Kadri, it?s paid off.
?I think my lower-body strength is at a completely different level right now,? said Kadri. ?Physically I look the best I?ve looked coming into camp. I?m lean and legs feel strong.?
Overhead squats, lateral squats and dumb bell routines were just some of the examples Kadri gave as to what exactly Roberts had him doing in the gym. He was also put on a ?strict nutritional plan? that helped him trim down to a lean 183 pounds.
?Not much fat on me right now, which is ideally what I wanted.?
Roberts, who was always dedicated to fitness during his NHL career, has been praised for the work he has done recently with hockey players and their conditioning. Steven Stamkos, Jeff Skinner and Cody Hodgson all swear by Roberts and, now, so does Kadri.
?He knows what he?s doing,? said Kadri. ?I think I needed extra help. Not that I wasn?t doing the right things previously, because I felt like I was, but he?s been around and knows what to do. He?s educated on all the muscle groups and how to strengthen them. I needed his professionalism.?
Kadri also took up yoga classes at the advice of Roberts and feels more flexible after just a few sessions.
Two seasons ago Kadri was requested by the Leafs organization to get stronger, but when he started working out more off the ice he also got bigger and was knocked for losing some of his speed. That?s not something he?s concerned with this time.
?Speed?s my game,? he said. ?When I try to pack on too many pounds it affects the way I skate. I?m not a guy that?s going to sit at 195 or 200 pounds. I focused on just getting stronger and I like the 182-185 point.?
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The 2009 first-round pick joined Roberts in early July. Because of a shoulder separation caused in last season?s playoffs, which is now 100% healed, Kadri and Roberts spent a serious amount of dedication working on the lower body. According to Kadri, it?s paid off.
?I think my lower-body strength is at a completely different level right now,? said Kadri. ?Physically I look the best I?ve looked coming into camp. I?m lean and legs feel strong.?
Overhead squats, lateral squats and dumb bell routines were just some of the examples Kadri gave as to what exactly Roberts had him doing in the gym. He was also put on a ?strict nutritional plan? that helped him trim down to a lean 183 pounds.
?Not much fat on me right now, which is ideally what I wanted.?
Roberts, who was always dedicated to fitness during his NHL career, has been praised for the work he has done recently with hockey players and their conditioning. Steven Stamkos, Jeff Skinner and Cody Hodgson all swear by Roberts and, now, so does Kadri.
?He knows what he?s doing,? said Kadri. ?I think I needed extra help. Not that I wasn?t doing the right things previously, because I felt like I was, but he?s been around and knows what to do. He?s educated on all the muscle groups and how to strengthen them. I needed his professionalism.?
Kadri also took up yoga classes at the advice of Roberts and feels more flexible after just a few sessions.
Two seasons ago Kadri was requested by the Leafs organization to get stronger, but when he started working out more off the ice he also got bigger and was knocked for losing some of his speed. That?s not something he?s concerned with this time.
?Speed?s my game,? he said. ?When I try to pack on too many pounds it affects the way I skate. I?m not a guy that?s going to sit at 195 or 200 pounds. I focused on just getting stronger and I like the 182-185 point.?
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GhostofPotvin29
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Sounds good to me. Can't hurt.
maplesyrup
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
I used to be solidly in this camp. It used to bug me a lot. Now, I really don't care much either way. - Just be a good player... please. :-\
ZBBM
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Sgt said:
Prime numbers in the 40s are a known risk factor in the failed careers of high draftees. See this new study:
http://www.science.com/why-kadri-sucks-so-far-a-bayesian-analysis-of-numerological-impacts-on-biokinetic-performance-6gh7ly55
maplesyrup
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Haha. I can't believe I even attempted to open the link.
Britishbulldog
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Sgt said:
;D
Champ Kind
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Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate said:
That one deserves some karma...